Hibachi!

Thats just ridiculous, we all see how Ginobli plays when he starts, same with Bobby, number two, Bobby is instant offense, for himself, however he doesnt make the other people around him better, which is why Bibby has double the assists Jackson does even tho they have almost the same minutes, Bibby is calm, great in the stretch, and plays the pick and roll with C Webb better than anyone in the NBA

Fake? Fake? Whats fake about him? 17 points and 5 assists a game isnt fake in my view, he doesnt shoot nearly as much as the other pg's, he does what he needs to do to win, we all see how Payton is doing with the Lakers when they have missing players, same for Baron Davis, and Francis? Hes just a name this year, !Hes averaging 17 points a game and 5 assists hmm those are Bibbys numbers, but wait Franices shoots 39% averages way more shots than Bibby and shoots 29% from three land , hmm Bibby shoots 45% and 39% from three land...whos numbers are better, plus Francis gets more minutes which = more points, but its Francis you see with the dunks, its Francis you see with the steal and the flashy plays, so before you say Francis is better take a look at the numbers...

And who is NVE?

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And he is third in the league in turnovers...

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ElevatorMan

i think bibby is overraterd... did anyone care about him when he was in Vancouver... hell no... he is an above average point guard. everyone thinks that he is better then he is because of bill walton's constant praise of him..don't get me wrong he is good he is just not that good

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NVE is the last PLAYER in the league you want to see with the ball when your team is up by 20 and hes trying to make a come back.

The Flip side of the coin is NVE is the last player on your team that you want to have the ball when your team is wining with seconds on the clock.

Hell shoot you back into a game but then hell shoot you right out of a game.


I will admit I fell for the Bibby hype when he destroyed the Lakers backcourt a couple of years ago. Hes not a bad PG but he doesnt really stand out either.

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maKINGSofgreatness

can bibby get some credit for running the most high powered offence in basketball? people will say that the big men do the passing but bibby averages more assists. he will never get voted in as a starter, but the coaches may apprieciate that. with the league's scoring down because of vone defense and shooters in high demand, you would think a sharpshooter at such an important position would be valued more...He doesnt shoot as much as other point guards, doesnt have to, and his whole team can pass, unlike others where no one else can (payton discluded here) Few TOs...I dont think he make it, but hes got a chance now that Stephon is gone. Im not even saying he should be, but it would be nice, maby people wouldnt call him the most overrated player ever so much, even though there are few better, and hes perfect for this team

bballer27

ya probably he will

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EHL

Nope, even with Marbury gone he won't make it this year.

Payton, Nash, Cassell, Francis and NVE are all better PGs than Bibby. Francis, I suppose, is the only one you could argue that isn't better than Bibby, but even then it's debateable knowing how much Bibby's on the ball and team defense has sucked this year compared to how well Francis locks up his player.

venturalakersfan

Regarding the playoffs a couple of years ago, if Bibby had Derek Fisher guarding him for 82 games, he would not only be an all-star, but league MVP as well.

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Hibachi!

Fine whatever dont give Bibby his credit, but hes stepped up when a players out (Webber) because his sc oring has gone up his field goal percentage is up, his assists are up, his game is up, and Payton has gone down, hes only averaging 14 points a game, he doesnt play good defense anymore, he hasnt stepped up his game with Shaq and Malone out, and his team aint winning. So that knocks Marbury, Payton, and Francis off the list...

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EHL

Boy are you clueless.

DaUnbreakableKinG

I guess I am clueless too EHL. I also think Bibby is better than Glove.

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Prove me wrong, give me some hard stats that show that Bibby isnt as good as i say he is... Gimme some proof, im waiting, show me one hard fact that shows that he sucks, or hes not good enough to be an All-Star, prove it with the numbers, i did, why cant u...

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EHL

It's kind of hard to prove something with numbers when different players have different roles on their teams. Using an argument such as "Payton only scores 14 ppg" doesn't even deserve a response, it's a totally ridiculous argument given Payton's reduced role in a stacked starting lineup where he simply can't score 20 ppg like he used to do in his sleep last season, when he didn't have Shaq, Malone and Kobe on the same team.

But go on, continue believing that Bibby is a better defender than Payton.

solo

Payton has done probably the most important thing to the laker this year....A FAST BREAK.

Hibachi!