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**RollWithEm** · 06-07-2012, 10:55 AM

What do you think of Keith Smart?

Who would you consider the Kings core players at this time?

How would you instill a winning culture?

What would you do with the 5th and 36th picks?

What trades would you make?

Would you consider using your amnesty on John Salmons?

How would you approach free agency?

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm

**Knicks4life** · 06-07-2012, 11:41 AM

What do you think of Keith Smart?

Who would you consider the Kings core players at this time?
Cousins, Tyreke, maybe Isaiah Thomas

How would you instill a winning culture?
By acquiring veteran leadership through either FA or by trade.

What would you do with the 5th and 36th picks?
BPA

What trades would you make?
I would trade the 5th pick for Gay.

Would you consider using your amnesty on John Salmons?

**Basel** · 06-07-2012, 11:45 AM

You don't consider DeMarcus Cousins one of their core players?

**Knicks4life** · 06-07-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Basel

You don't consider DeMarcus Cousins one of their core players?

Cousins is the first player I mentioned.

**Basel** · 06-07-2012, 11:50 AM

Oh shit, I didn't even see that. Read right over it. My bad.

**Bogg** · 06-07-2012, 12:02 PM

The Kings need a real point guard, they need to clear out some of that logjam in the backcourt, and they need to get Cousins another starting big man so we can decide if he's a four or a five and move forward accordingly. If either Robinson or Drummond are still around at five then take them and roll with a good frontcourt, if not grab Beal so you have a shooting guard taller than 6'2" going forward. Unload Evans on a team that needs a swingman to fill the remaining holes in the roster, and if you can get them to take Salmons as well, then great. Supposedly Toronto is shopping the 8th pick, if you can do Evans, Salmons, and the 36th for Calderon's contract and the 8th, that'd be worth taking a look at. Other than that, don't get sucked into committing any sort of real money to Jason Thompson and Donte Green and try to create some sort of environment conducive to learning. The Maloofs aren't going to spend big, and there's no way the team is good next year, so you might as well commit to youth and a high pick next year.

**RollWithEm** · 06-07-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogg

if you can do Evans, Salmons, and the 36th for Calderon's contract and the 8th, that'd be worth taking a look at.

I don't like that deal for either team. Evans fits on the Raptors only if Calderon stays in town. Also, the 8th pick isn't enough for Tyreke. I still think he has more value that that. If those two teams were to hook-up on a trade, I think Evans, Salmons, and the 36th for Derozan and Ed Davis is a more balanced trade.

Toronto gets a true penetrator and finisher (neither of which exists on their roster at the moment) who still has plenty of potential to cultivate. The Kings get a solid defensive wing and another big with potential.

**Floods** · 06-07-2012, 01:57 PM

What do you think of Keith Smart?

Good as it'll get for the time being.

Who would you consider the Kings core players at this time?

Cousins, #5, Evans

How would you instill a winning culture?

The inmates are running the asylum in Sac so that needs to stop first and foremost. Second, smarter play needs to be emphasized. Cousins put up 18 and 11 last year, which is nice, but he did it on 44% shooting, which is HORRIBLE for a big man. Oh yeah, and defense.

What would you do with the 5th and 36th picks?

5th pick: Drummond's my first choice if he's still there, since that can push Cousins to PF and give the Kings a big frontcourt going forward. It is risky, since this isn't a great situation for 'project' players like Drummond. But at the very least he gives the team some defense. If MKG slides this far, I happily take him. Robinson would be good too. Beal I don't want and would rather not be stuck with.

36th pick: Whatever. Grab someone who can play defense.

What trades would you make?

Call Utah and see what they'd part with for Fredette.

Would you consider using your amnesty on John Salmons?

Only thing making this a contest is the other shitty contracts on the roster at the moment.

How would you approach free agency?

Make a run at Andre Miller.

**Bogg** · 06-07-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RollWithEm

I don't like that deal for either team. Evans fits on the Raptors only if Calderon stays in town. Also, the 8th pick isn't enough for Tyreke. I still think he has more value that that. If those two teams were to hook-up on a trade, I think Evans, Salmons, and the 36th for Derozan and Ed Davis is a more balanced trade.

Toronto gets a true penetrator and finisher (neither of which exists on their roster at the moment) who still has plenty of potential to cultivate. The Kings get a solid defensive wing and another big with potential.

Eesh, Derozan is decent, but you have to pay him immediately, and he's one of those guys you don't want to give a good contract to as you rebuild. I don't hate it, but I'm not a fan either.

**RollWithEm** · 06-07-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Floods

Call Utah and see what they'd part with for Fredette.

Jimmer and the #5 for Paul Millsap?

**Floods** · 06-07-2012, 02:13 PM

Wouldn't trade the 5 for Millsap.

**RollWithEm** · 06-07-2012, 02:14 PM

I just don't think Favors or Kanter are really available. If they are willing to part with Kanter, though, for that package of Jimmer and the 5... I would definitely do it.

**Floods** · 06-07-2012, 02:18 PM

Okay let's simplify... I wouldn't deal the 5 for anyone on Utah's roster.

**RollWithEm** · 06-07-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Floods

Okay let's simplify... I wouldn't deal the 5 for anyone on Utah's roster.

HUH????? Favors and Kanter are both WAY WAY better than anyone that would be available at 5 in this draft.

**Bogg** · 06-07-2012, 02:20 PM

I'd deal the 5 for Favors, he looks like he's going to become a legitimate defensive center, which would slot perfectly next to Cousins. I just don't think he's available.

EDIT: Kanter didn't show enough last season for me to move what amounts to either Drummond, Robinson, Beal, or Barnes for him.

06-07-2012, 10:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,341 Rep Power: 6041729	How Would You Fix the Kings? What do you think of Keith Smart? Who would you consider the Kings core players at this time? How would you instill a winning culture? What would you do with the 5th and 36th picks? What trades would you make? Would you consider using your amnesty on John Salmons? How would you approach free agency? http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-07-2012, 11:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Knicks4life Too Big To Fail Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,242 Rep Power: 3012647	Re: How Would You Fix the Kings? What do you think of Keith Smart? Who would you consider the Kings core players at this time? Cousins, Tyreke, maybe Isaiah Thomas How would you instill a winning culture? By acquiring veteran leadership through either FA or by trade. What would you do with the 5th and 36th picks? BPA What trades would you make? I would trade the 5th pick for Gay. Would you consider using your amnesty on John Salmons? __________________ "Winning is the most important thing in my life,after breathing. Breathing first, winning next"-George Steinbrenner

06-07-2012, 11:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
Basel Legen-wait for it-dary! Legendary! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Age: 27 Posts: 68,549 Rep Power: 21474913	Re: How Would You Fix the Kings? You don't consider DeMarcus Cousins one of their core players? __________________ Best there is, best there was, best there ever will be.

06-07-2012, 11:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Basel Legen-wait for it-dary! Legendary! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Age: 27 Posts: 68,549 Rep Power: 21474913	Re: How Would You Fix the Kings? Oh shit, I didn't even see that. Read right over it. My bad. __________________ Best there is, best there was, best there ever will be.

06-07-2012, 12:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bogg Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,617 Rep Power: 4050067	Re: How Would You Fix the Kings? The Kings need a real point guard, they need to clear out some of that logjam in the backcourt, and they need to get Cousins another starting big man so we can decide if he's a four or a five and move forward accordingly. If either Robinson or Drummond are still around at five then take them and roll with a good frontcourt, if not grab Beal so you have a shooting guard taller than 6'2" going forward. Unload Evans on a team that needs a swingman to fill the remaining holes in the roster, and if you can get them to take Salmons as well, then great. Supposedly Toronto is shopping the 8th pick, if you can do Evans, Salmons, and the 36th for Calderon's contract and the 8th, that'd be worth taking a look at. Other than that, don't get sucked into committing any sort of real money to Jason Thompson and Donte Green and try to create some sort of environment conducive to learning. The Maloofs aren't going to spend big, and there's no way the team is good next year, so you might as well commit to youth and a high pick next year.

06-07-2012, 01:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Floods -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14,124 Rep Power: 15842309	Re: How Would You Fix the Kings? What do you think of Keith Smart? Good as it'll get for the time being. Who would you consider the Kings core players at this time? Cousins, #5, Evans How would you instill a winning culture? The inmates are running the asylum in Sac so that needs to stop first and foremost. Second, smarter play needs to be emphasized. Cousins put up 18 and 11 last year, which is nice, but he did it on 44% shooting, which is HORRIBLE for a big man. Oh yeah, and defense. What would you do with the 5th and 36th picks? 5th pick: Drummond's my first choice if he's still there, since that can push Cousins to PF and give the Kings a big frontcourt going forward. It is risky, since this isn't a great situation for 'project' players like Drummond. But at the very least he gives the team some defense. If MKG slides this far, I happily take him. Robinson would be good too. Beal I don't want and would rather not be stuck with. 36th pick: Whatever. Grab someone who can play defense. What trades would you make? Call Utah and see what they'd part with for Fredette. Would you consider using your amnesty on John Salmons? Only thing making this a contest is the other shitty contracts on the roster at the moment. How would you approach free agency? Make a run at Andre Miller.

06-07-2012, 02:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
Floods -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14,124 Rep Power: 15842309	Re: How Would You Fix the Kings? Wouldn't trade the 5 for Millsap.

06-07-2012, 02:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
RollWithEm Never Argue with a Fool Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 28,341 Rep Power: 6041729	Re: How Would You Fix the Kings? I just don't think Favors or Kanter are really available. If they are willing to part with Kanter, though, for that package of Jimmer and the 5... I would definitely do it. __________________ But that's just me. RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy) RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's) RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac 2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson

06-07-2012, 02:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Floods -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14,124 Rep Power: 15842309	Re: How Would You Fix the Kings? Okay let's simplify... I wouldn't deal the 5 for anyone on Utah's roster.

06-07-2012, 02:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bogg Moderator Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,617 Rep Power: 4050067	Re: How Would You Fix the Kings? I'd deal the 5 for Favors, he looks like he's going to become a legitimate defensive center, which would slot perfectly next to Cousins. I just don't think he's available. EDIT: Kanter didn't show enough last season for me to move what amounts to either Drummond, Robinson, Beal, or Barnes for him.

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