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Old 09-10-2002, 05:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Nevermind, I see that you are a PAcers fan by your profile.
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Blazers bench could take the kings

PG-Daniels
SG-Derek Anderson
SF-Ruben Patterson
PF-Zach Randolph
C-Sabonis

The first four always get after it when theyre out there and Sabonis is just a huge guy with great passing skills and a nice J.
Thats what you need in a bench i think.
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hedo has the potential to be an all-star. Artest is just a role player. Shall we make this another thread or what?
No, I can settle it.

I would trade Hedo Turkoglu for Ron Artest in a hearbeat. I like Turkoglu's game, but come on, man, it's Ron Artest.
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:13 PM   #19 (permalink)
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No, I can settle it.

I would trade Hedo Turkoglu for Ron Artest in a hearbeat. I like Turkoglu's game, but come on, man, it's Ron Artest.

Wiggum, I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not....
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Wiggum, I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not....
I'm being dead serious.
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Oh my, I better get off this thread before ya'll take away my sanity.
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:16 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think you are insane, I think Artest is overrated, just don't tell any Pacer Fans on the board.

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Old 09-10-2002, 05:17 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Haha if you took turks Offensive game and shooting and u took Ron Rons D and hustle you would have an instant superstar.
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
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GUYS! What about the Knicks!

C - Michael "White Thunder" Doleac
PF - Othella "Big Fella" Harrington
SF - Lavor "Can I Please Go Back To St. John's?" Postell
SG - Shandon "Don't Call Me Shannon" Anderson
PG - Frank "If He Can't Do It...We're Screwed" Williams

And the THIRD LINE?

C - Felton "I Look Lost" Spencer
PF - Travis "I Have a Ring!" Knight
SF - Clarence "Longest American NBA Name" Weatherspoon
SG - Larry "Who?" Robinson
PG - Howard "No Nickname Needed" Eisley

Psh..you thought the Kings were good...
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:25 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Correction. The King's bench now looks like this:

PG: Bobby Jackson
SG: Hedo Turkoglu
SF: Jumaine Jones
PF: Keon Clark
C: Scott Pollard

I counted 4 guys from this group who are good enough to win starting spots with lesser teams.

11th man: Gerald Wallace
12th man: Lawrence Funderburke

These two would be among the first off the bench in many other teams.

The Kings' talent is getting ridiculous...
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Old 09-10-2002, 05:33 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Uh, both of you are insane, or Pacer fans or fans of wherever Artest went to college.

Hedo has the potential to be an all-star. Artest is just a role player. Shall we make this another thread or what?
Whoa!! Artest....just a role player and what role is that???
This guy can score from all angles....
I noticed the Pacers can use him as a top option.
He has it - Off the drive, inside/outside, a strong game overall
He's one of the league's top shut down defenders...
which even makes him more complete...
A Role player??? Don't think so....Artest is for reals..
Ron-Ron would love to be matched up against Turko anyday.
He's physical & tough enough to take you away from your game.
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Hedo over Artest? I'm sorry, but anyone who believes that is either biased, stupid, or both.

For what it's worth, both guys were born in 1979. Hedo played about 25 minutes a game last year, Artest about 30. Hedo scored 10 points, with 4.5 rebounds and 2 assists a game. Artest scored about 15, with 4.9 rebounds and 2.9 assists a game. Artest has far more steals, nearly 2 more a game. Hedo's fg% was 42.2%. Artest shot 42.3% on the year. Hedo's 3 point percentage was 36.8%, Artest's was 31.2%. Clearly the two players are very similar stat wise, but Artest is a better defender, so he gets the nod as the better player.
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Pacers are close:

*=advantage

PG-Freddie Jones vs. Bobby Jackson*
SG-Ron Mercer* vs. Gerald Wallace (for right now)
SF-Ron Artest* vs. Hedo Turkoglu (Hedo can't start over Christie..)
PF-Austin Croshere vs. Keon Clark*
C-Jonathan Bender vs. Scott Pollard (tie)

This is close....
I agree with this comparison
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Old 09-10-2002, 06:38 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Hedo over Artest? I'm sorry, but anyone who believes that is either biased, stupid, or both.

For what it's worth, both guys were born in 1979. Hedo played about 25 minutes a game last year, Artest about 30. Hedo scored 10 points, with 4.5 rebounds and 2 assists a game. Artest scored about 15, with 4.9 rebounds and 2.9 assists a game. Artest has far more steals, nearly 2 more a game. Hedo's fg% was 42.2%. Artest shot 42.3% on the year. Hedo's 3 point percentage was 36.8%, Artest's was 31.2%. Clearly the two players are very similar stat wise, but Artest is a better defender, so he gets the nod as the better player.

Yeah moron, I understand that Artest is more established in his career right now, he's been playing starter's minutes since he has first been in the league. I'm sure Artest's stats look better than Dmiles',Tim Thomas',Michael Redd's, or a host of other young players who may have higher upsides than Artest but have not yet gotten the experience.

We shall see. Hedo will be starting this year, with a more prominent role. I like his body much more than Artests, as he is a 6'10 big man who can put it on the floor, pass, shoot, defend 3 positions, and is a very good rebounder.
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This is close....
I agree with this comparison
I wasn't sure about the Bender and Pollard being a tie-but I decided that Pollard is mainly good for fouls and a couple of rebounds.
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