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pharcyde · 09-10-2002, 08:34 PM

I'm not saying he can't grow, but to say that any reliable stat sheet had him listed at 6'9" is a false statement. Both espn.com and nba.com had him listed at 6'8". The only reason I made a big deal about it is because you made it seem like the extra inch or two that he may have grown would automatically improve his game and make him better than Artest, which it won't do.

KingsMan7 · 09-10-2002, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by moTIGS!
I'm not saying he can't grow, but to say that any reliable stat sheet had him listed at 6'9" is a false statement. Both espn.com and nba.com had him listed at 6'8". The only reason I made a big deal about it is because you made it seem like the extra inch or two that he may have grown would automatically improve his game and make him better than Artest, which it won't do.

Why not? How many 6'10 ballers do you know who can handle, pass, shoot, and d at 3 positions?

pharcyde · 09-10-2002, 08:51 PM

First of all, what 3 positions can he defend? Not the 1, and not the 4 or 5. That's 2 by my count. He's not as good at defense as Artest, so Hedo's advantage on offense is neutralized. His height advantage over Artest wouldn't make a huge difference if they played against eachother. I'm done with this for now, it's not going anywhere.

**R-Star** · 09-10-2002, 10:03 PM

No point arguing with him. According to Kingsman Hedo can also leap over tall buildings and run faster than a speeding bullet.

Wiggum · 09-10-2002, 10:13 PM

Guys...you're arguing over a whole two inches of height. Come on. Let's drop this.

Petey · 09-10-2002, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by moTIGS!
Hedo over Artest? I'm sorry, but anyone who believes that is either biased, stupid, or both.

For what it's worth, both guys were born in 1979. Hedo played about 25 minutes a game last year, Artest about 30. Hedo scored 10 points, with 4.5 rebounds and 2 assists a game. Artest scored about 15, with 4.9 rebounds and 2.9 assists a game. Artest has far more steals, nearly 2 more a game. Hedo's fg% was 42.2%. Artest shot 42.3% on the year. Hedo's 3 point percentage was 36.8%, Artest's was 31.2%. Clearly the two players are very similar stat wise, but Artest is a better defender, so he gets the nod as the better player.

5 more minutes in different systems. Artest played in a wild system, and a system that lacked the power even of the orignal bench posted in this thread... If Hedo was given free rain, with more chances (like those that aren't taken away by Vlade, Webber, Bibby and Peja) he would beat Artest easily... is that agreeable that players around the 2 we are comparing have a bearing on their stats?

-Petey

**R-Star** · 09-10-2002, 10:30 PM

I realy cant see how you can say Hedo would beat one of the best defenders in the league easily. Hes an ok scorer, sub par defender, What is special about that?

KingsMan7 · 09-10-2002, 11:14 PM

He's above average defensively and a good rebounder, regardless of RollWithEm's random facts.

harper time · 09-11-2002, 05:44 AM

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Dude, do you know what the hell your talking about?

Hedo can't play d, you must have SOLELY based this on his ethnicity and being a euro.

Hedo can do everything, he is a very good defender and rebounder and is an all around player and a potential superstar. Learn some respect and yes he probably will beat out Doug for the starting 2 spot.

Are you calling Wilt a racist? He was just stating that Christie started over Hedo last year.

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