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**Sir Patchwork** · 05-03-2005, 12:55 AM

If that handcheck was a foul, then so was Ginobili getting hit in the face and arm on the last play of the game. But why gripe on these things, Spurs won, and even though the game wasn't officiated great, I thought it went both ways.

socco · 05-03-2005, 12:59 AM

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If that handcheck was a foul, then so was Ginobili getting hit in the face and arm on the last play of the game. But why gripe on these things, Spurs won, and even though the game wasn't officiated great, I thought it went both ways.

That handcheck WAS a foul, there's no question about it. Should it have been called? I would definately say no. But technically, it was most definately a foul.

KokoTheMonkey · 05-03-2005, 12:59 AM

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It doesn't matter if he didn't fall because of a hand check. He was fouled with a hand check, period. Are you gonna say Duncan did not foul Melo? Because that's the only thing that I said. I didn't say it should've been called, in fact I said it was weak.

Are you going by the way the officials called the game tonight, or under normal circumstances? That is not a foul under normal circumstances. I'm aware of handchecking and how it is called, and I've seen enough to know that a little weak thing like that isn't called on a regular basis.

Carmelo fell down, that's why it was a foul. It wasn't because of anything Duncan did.

socco · 05-03-2005, 01:02 AM

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Are you going by the way the officials called the game tonight, or under normal circumstances? That is not a foul under normal circumstances. I'm aware of handchecking and how it is called, and I've seen enough to know that a little weak thing like that isn't called on a regular basis.

Carmelo fell down, that's why it was a foul. It wasn't because of anything Duncan did.

Why the hell is this so hard to understand for you? Tim Duncan committed a hand checking foul on Carmelo Anthony during that play. I personally don't give a crap about any of that other stuff. And I don't think a foul should've been called. But Tim Duncan did committ a foul on that play, there is no denying that. That's ALL I was saying. I think that's pretty easy to understand.

KokoTheMonkey · 05-03-2005, 01:02 AM

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That handcheck WAS a foul, there's no question about it. Should it have been called? I would definately say no. But technically, it was most definately a foul.

Definitely a foul? We were watching two different games my friend. I'll leave it at that. I'm not the least bit concerned with a play like that right now. It was a bad call, for the reason I stated above. The officials waited until Carmelo fell down, then decided there was a foul. If it was definitely a foul, and especially under these circumstances, a foul would have been called the minute Duncan touched Carmelo. Notice I said touched. There is a difference between touching and pushing. If contact wasn't allowed, there would be layup fests in the NBA.

KokoTheMonkey · 05-03-2005, 01:06 AM

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Why the hell is this so hard to understand for you? Tim Duncan committed a hand checking foul on Carmelo Anthony during that play. I personally don't give a crap about any of that other stuff. And I don't think a foul should've been called. But Tim Duncan did committ a foul on that play, there is no denying that. That's ALL I was saying. I think that's pretty easy to understand.

What the hell is hard for you to understand? That's your opinion, and I have mine. You understand that? I do.

You're arguing just to argue. That's your calling card. If you think Tim Duncan's "handcheck" was a foul, that's your damn opinion. I don't think it was a foul. That's my damn opinion. By the way, would you be calling for a foul if Garnett was in that same situation as Duncan? Don't insult my intelligence with a bizarre answer to that.

If you want the last word, go for it. You're wasting my time with this, since you just don't want to accept someone elses opinion.

socco · 05-03-2005, 01:06 AM

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Definitely a foul? We were watching two different games my friend. I'll leave it at that. I'm not the least bit concerned with a play like that right now. It was a bad call, for the reason I stated above. The officials waited until Carmelo fell down, then decided there was a foul. If it was definitely a foul, and especially under these circumstances, a foul would have been called the minute Duncan touched Carmelo. Notice I said touched. There is a difference between touching and pushing. If contact wasn't allowed, there would be layup fests in the NBA.

You're damn right it was a bad call. Why can't you admit the obvious fact that Tim Duncan fould Carmelo Anthony on that play? TIM DUNCAN COMMITTED A HAND CHECKING FOUL ON THAT PLAY. Hell, that's not even the part the refs called, they called him for pushing Melo down, even though he didn't even touch him to cause him to fall. What I'm saying has nothing to do with what the refs did. All I said is there was a foul on Duncan there, a weak one, but a foul nonetheless. And that's ALL.

KokoTheMonkey · 05-03-2005, 01:08 AM

Great win for us fellas. Let's finish it off Wednesday.

**Sir Patchwork** · 05-03-2005, 01:10 AM

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That handcheck WAS a foul, there's no question about it. Should it have been called? I would definately say no. But technically, it was most definately a foul.

The last play where Ginobili didn't get a shot up WAS a foul too, by the same standards, but it wasn't called. Goes both ways.

socco · 05-03-2005, 01:16 AM

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The last play where Ginobili didn't get a shot up WAS a foul too, by the same standards, but it wasn't called. Goes both ways.

Sure, I don't care. You guys think I'm arguing against you here? All I did was point out that technically there was a foul (a pretty weak one) on Duncan during that play. That's all.

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By the way, would you be calling for a foul if Garnett was in that same situation as Duncan? Don't insult my intelligence with a bizarre answer to that.

I would've preferred to submit the post I wrote up calling you a ****ing idiot multiple times, but I won't. I'll simply state that I never once called for a foul on Duncan on that play. In fact I said the exact opposite, that there should've been no foul called there. I said that technically there was a foul there, and a very weak one at that, and THAT'S ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KokoTheMonkey · 05-03-2005, 01:18 AM

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Sure, I don't care. You guys think I'm arguing against you here? All I did was point out that technically there was a foul (a pretty weak one) on Duncan during that play. That's all.

I would've preferred to submit the post I wrote up calling you a ****ing idiot multiple times, but I won't. I'll simply state that I never once called for a foul on Duncan on that play. In fact I said the exact opposite, that there should've been no foul called there. I said that technically there was a foul there, and a very weak one at that, and THAT'S ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd expect you to revert to name calling, in which case you would have been suspended. Good call, even though you still called me a ****ing idiot.

Gambino · 05-03-2005, 01:20 AM

Good Win San Antonio. Looks like you guys are in the 2nd round now.

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