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05-28-2008, 06:23 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
Barry, Thomas and Finley will be back. They're immortal!
I would look into FA for everyone else. Get some youth. Duhon is a great idea.
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05-29-2008, 10:31 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
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Originally Posted by Ruff Draft
Barry, Thomas and Finley will be back. They're immortal!
I would look into FA for everyone else. Get some youth. Duhon is a great idea.
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If Finley returns, the Spurs are in for a rough season.
On the TNT post-game show after the Lakers game 5 win, Barkley said they needed to make wholesale changes, bringing in 5 NBA-caliber players. The Jet said they needed to tweak the team with a couple of new pieces. Pop was quoted during the game as saying they knew they needed to get younger, and they were in position to do so. Then after the game, he said they didn't need to make wholesale changes.
The Jet said they were a team of spot-up shooters! He apparently isn't watching the same team that I am. Tony is not a spot-up shooter. Ginobili's game is more varied, but I would never call him a spot-up shooter. In fact his spot-up shooting is what failed us during this series! Tony and Manu are both known for their ability to take it to the hole! I think they need a very reliable shooter - especially from 3-point land. Horry and Finley are no longer reliable, and they will hopefully be gone next year.
What do you think the Spurs need to do this offseason?
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06-02-2008, 10:19 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
Barry and Vaughn will exercise their options to return but it's unlikely that either of them get much burn next season. Oberto and Thomas should be brought back, but it's time for you to let Horry, Finley and Stoudamire go.
If I were the Spurs GM, I'd be looking for a PG in the late first round of the draft, and a young slasher with my MLE.
Say, draft Mario Chalmers with the 26th pick, bring in Tiago Splitter from overseas and sign Mickael Pietrus to a 4/5yr deal for the MLE.
PG: Tony Parker...Mario Chalmers...Jacque Vaughn
SG: Emmanuel Ginobili...Ime Udoka...Brent Barry
SF: Mickael Pietrus...Bruce Bowen
PF: Tim Duncan...Tiago Splitter...Matt Bonner
C: Fabricio Oberto...Kurt Thomas...Ian Mahinmi
Bowen, Oberto and Thomas would then be the only 34+ aged players in the lineup.
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06-02-2008, 10:24 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
ian as a 3rd option = insane move
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06-02-2008, 11:32 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
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ian as a 3rd option = insane move
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He would actually probably start as the third option, knowing Pop, but I could see him taking the starting role by the end of the year.
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06-02-2008, 11:48 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
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They'd have a spot for Splitter, if he were ready. Perhaps they'll sign him and place him in the Austin pipeline for a year like they did Mahinmi.
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Splitter is better player than Mahinmi and more experienced, there is no way he would agree to go to a development league and if I remember, he won't come next year because he'll get a lot more money playing in Europe. So I hope he'll go to Spurs and play for less money but it seems unlikely at this point.
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06-06-2008, 01:38 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
mysanantonio.com has an article about who is most likely to return. Spurs will probably resign Thomas, and maybe Finley, but Johnson, Horry and Stoudemire should be gone. Thank God! They also talk about how we probably won't see Splitter in a Spurs jersey for another 2 years, if ever.
They also mention a bit about free agents the spurs might look into getting. Sasha and Maggette are probably out of the question, but Pietrus and Delfino should be within the Spurs grasp should they decide to go after one of them, which I pray the God they do. Them having already played alongside Manu and Parker for their respective national teams gives us a slight advantage in getting one of them.
They also make a good point in that the Spurs probably won't make any big trades or changes until the summer of 2010, when we'll have a lot more flexibility with the salary cap. And considering we might finally get Splitter in 2010, that could be our year to retake the title 
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06-06-2008, 05:14 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
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Originally Posted by Damian Necronamous
Barry and Vaughn will exercise their options to return but it's unlikely that either of them get much burn next season. Oberto and Thomas should be brought back, but it's time for you to let Horry, Finley and Stoudamire go.
If I were the Spurs GM, I'd be looking for a PG in the late first round of the draft, and a young slasher with my MLE.
Say, draft Mario Chalmers with the 26th pick, bring in Tiago Splitter from overseas and sign Mickael Pietrus to a 4/5yr deal for the MLE.
PG: Tony Parker...Mario Chalmers...Jacque Vaughn
SG: Emmanuel Ginobili...Ime Udoka...Brent Barry
SF: Mickael Pietrus...Bruce Bowen
PF: Tim Duncan...Tiago Splitter...Matt Bonner
C: Fabricio Oberto...Kurt Thomas...Ian Mahinmi
Bowen, Oberto and Thomas would then be the only 34+ aged players in the lineup.
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I can't see the Spurs' bringing back Finley - especially after the year he had in 07-08. Cuban has financed Finley's career with the Spurs so far, but next year they would have to foot his entire salary themselves.
If Parker, Vaughn and Barry all return, an emergency PG can be picked up in free agency. THAT is not what the Spurs need. Their offense is pitiful. They desperately need somebody who can put the ball in the bucket consistently - good jump shooter first, especially from 3-point range. If he can also put the ball on the floor -fine. But they already have Parker and Ginobili for that.
They have 3 draft picks to do something with. Why not trade them? As for looking ahead to 2010, Timmy will be 34 then. He probably will be ready to slow down to the 25 min/game level and assume a role as a secondary scorer, as David Robinson did his last year or so with the team.
I like the idea of pursuing Sasha Vujacic and Tayshaun Prince, if the Pistons make him available. Also, I'd like to see the Spurs bring in Sasha Kaun either by the draft or as a free agent, if he is undrafted.
Barry has played some PG, and Vujacic handles the ball quite a bit for the Lakers.
PG: Tony Parker...Jacque Vaughn...Brent Barry...FA
SG: Emmanuel Ginobili...Sasha Vujacic...Brent Barry
SF: Tayshaun Prince...Bruce Bowen...Ime Udoka
PF: Tim Duncan...Ian Mahinmi...Matt Bonner
C: Fabricio Oberto...Kurt Thomas...Sasha Kaun
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06-06-2008, 07:16 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
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PG: Tony Parker...Jacque Vaughn...Brent Barry...FA
SG: Emmanuel Ginobili...Sasha Vujacic...Brent Barry
SF: Tayshaun Prince...Bruce Bowen...Ime Udoka
PF: Tim Duncan...Ian Mahinmi...Matt Bonner
C: Fabricio Oberto...Kurt Thomas...Sasha Kaun
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That's a pretty decent lineup. Definitely better than this year's. One of our biggest weaknesses was not being able to sit Duncan down without falling into a huge hole and Ian would be a huge improvement over Horry. Prince would also be a huge improvement over Bowen on the offensive end, though I don't think acquiring him or Vujacic, let alone both of them, is very realistic. I would like to see Barry as our second option over Jacque though.
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06-06-2008, 10:29 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
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That's a pretty decent lineup. Definitely better than this year's. One of our biggest weaknesses was not being able to sit Duncan down without falling into a huge hole and Ian would be a huge improvement over Horry. Prince would also be a huge improvement over Bowen on the offensive end, though I don't think acquiring him or Vujacic, let alone both of them, is very realistic. I would like to see Barry as our second option over Jacque though.
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Ummm...but how the hell are you expecting to get Tayshaun Prince? Detroit will just give him to you?
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06-06-2008, 10:37 PM
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?
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Ummm...but how the hell are you expecting to get Tayshaun Prince? Detroit will just give him to you?
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What are you talking about? I said it's unrealistic...
If we were to somehow nab Prince, Bowen would undoubtedly have to be in that trade. Even with him though, I don't see Detroit trading Prince.
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