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I'm guessing that Barry would get time at the 1, 2 and 3 positions. Pop's rotation pretty much depends on the particular game and the particular match-ups. Beyond the starters, my "fantasy" lineup isn't a hard-and-fast depth chart. Having said that, though, I have observed in multiple postings that Pop doesn't seem to value Barry nearly as much as I do. He tried to trade him 2 years ago and DID trade him this season - even though Barry returned to the Spurs after the Sonics released him. So Barry doesn't seem to get nearly as much playing time as he would if I were in Pop's shoes. I don't know why Barry didn't get Finley's minutes this entire year. ALSO, Pop seems to like Vaughn pretty well - and Vaughn has been a much better player than I ever expected when they first signed him.

FreeMason Jr.

One of the things I hate most about Pop is how he seems to hold personal grudges against players. It was pretty obvious he had one against Udrih a few years ago.

Just imagine if we had Udrih still... sigh...

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Here's a question: do y'all think Finley returns?

I pray to God he won't, but I have this sickening feeling he will.

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I have never really understood that whole situation. Beno joined the team the before the 2004-05 season, just the second season after Speedy Claxton had to bail out Tony in the playoffs. The first season that Beno and Tony were on the team together, I thought that Beno was the better passer and had the better shot. But Beno has never been very good on defense, which is what Pop demands. I don't know if you can remember very well what Tony's game was like 4 seasons ago. He has come a long way, baby! And that was not a guarantee. I really thought Beno had the potential to surpass Tony if he developed and Tony didn't, and there might be a battle for starting PG. As it turned out Tony has developed nicely, and Udrih's development was retarded under Pop. But I think Beno realized more of his potential, and demonstrated that he has more potential yet, in Sacramento this past season. In the Portland forum, I have been suggesting that he would be a terrific addition to the Blazers' young lineup. I like him, and I think he will become a very solid NBA PG.

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No, I don't think he will. Even Pop and RC have to recognize that he is WAAAAY over the hill. Don't forget that Mark Cuban has been paying most of his salary for the last 2 years. He won't be doing that anymore, since that contract has expired.

Truth be told, the San Antonio Spurs have been desperately searching for a replacement for Stephen Jackson ever since 2003.

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The Spurs are terrible at drafting and developing players. Duncan, Tony and Manu are the EXCEPTIONS not the RULE. The notion that they are some kind of wizards in that regard is an absolute MYTH.

FreeMason Jr.

I don't know, they sure seem to be good at drafting. However, they refuse to develop those players and end up just giving them away. Udrih, Barbosa, Scola- just to name a few.

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I think they actually drafted Barbosa specifically for Phoenix in a draft day deal. My point was DRAFTING and DEVELOPING. Udrih and Scola are actually good examples. They may both turn out to be solid players, but not for the SPURS. Even so, that makes 5 (6 if you count Barbosa) draft picks including Duncan - and Udrih still has a way to go to prove himself. (I think he will, though.)

It just doesn't seem like the Spurs take the draft very seriously. For the most part, I think they just go through the motions, convinced that they can't get anybody of value as late as they pick, so they draft and stash some Euro player. Look what that's gotten them - possibly Ian Mahinmi. The deal with Scola has turned out to be a disaster, and the deal with Splitter has all the earmarks of a repeat. Even if he eventually does come to the Spurs, Timmy will no longer be a force by that time.

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If we do have to trade Splitter, I just hope we actually get something for him unlike when we traded Scola. We basically gave him to Houston.

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i dont want finely return, yet i feel like he will.

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Yep, me too. I really don't think we'll be making any big moves until at least next year.

I would like to see the Spurs at least drop Horry and Stoudemire, pick-up Ian and a free agent, and draft and KEEP someone young. I don't even really care who they draft as long as they actually attempt to develop him!

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