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Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?

Regardless of how their playoffs end, it seems like the Spurs will have to shake up their roster more this off-season than they have in a log time. Brent Barry (Player Option), Michael Finley, Robert Horry, DerMarr Johnson, Damon Stoudamire, Kurt Thomas and Jacque Vaughn (Player Option) are all Unrestricted Free Agents. It is difficult for me to see any of them returning except Barry and/or Vaughn by exercising his option to return. But I could see them retiring, too. Possibly Stoudamire could return if Vaughn doesn't. How about Matt Bonner? Will he have a roster spot?

I don't know how much cap space that would clear up, but it definitely clears up a lot of roster space. Who do you think will/won't return. What kind of trade, draft and free agent strategies do you see the Spurs pursuing this off-season?

I think it is clear that Ian Mahinmi will be on the Spurs' roster next year, but will he contribute? Where will Tiago Splitter be? Any free agents this year that the Spurs might be interested in?
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?

I would like to see everyone gone but Berry, Thomas, and Finley. Not that I want them to stay, I just really want Vaughn, Stoudemire, Johnson, and Horry gone. Maybe if we get rid of Thomas too we could bring in either Splitter or Mahinmi.
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I would like to see everyone gone but Berry, Thomas, and Finley. Not that I want them to stay, I just really want Vaughn, Stoudemire, Johnson, and Horry gone. Maybe if we get rid of Thomas too we could bring in either Splitter or Mahinmi.
The only guys I'd possibly like back are Barry, Vaughn and Thomas. But at 37 and after almost a half season on the shelf, who knows if Barry will be very good again. Finley's jumper has become too inconsistent, plus Cuban will no longer be paying him. I loved Thomas before he became a Spur, but until game 3 against the Hornets, he really didn't impress me in a Spurs uniform. Vaughn's intensity is very good, and his shot has been better than advertised. He's a good veteran back-up for Tony, and Pop really seems to like him. I like him better than Stoudamire, and the Spurs definitely need a backup PG - preferably one with experience. I'd bet Vaughn comes back.

Mahinmi will definitely be on the team next year. He is under contract, he won't play another year in Austin, and the Spurs will definitely have a roster spot for him. In fact, with all of the anticipated losses, they'll be looking for bodies to fill them - at the right price. They'd have a spot for Splitter, if he were ready. Perhaps they'll sign him and place him in the Austin pipeline for a year like they did Mahinmi.

Any players currently on other rosters that you think would interest the Spurs, via either free agency or trades?
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?

We'll need a new backup PG if we get rid of Vaughn and Stoudemire. To think, we could have Udrih as our backup... We'll also be needing a new guard. I think Gilbert Arenas is suppose to be a free agent next year, but I think he'd be a terrible fit with this team. Sacramento will probably be looking to trade Artest. What do y'all think about him?
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?

The Spurs have had a bad boy or two in the past - DRodman, Stephen Jackson. But I don't think either Arenas or Artest would fit well with the Spurs or with Pop. Though they are both very skilled players, I'd be worried that they might have a bad impact on team chemistry. Both tend to hold the ball too much. Tony and Manu already need the ball quite a bit. There just isn't enough ball to go around with another guy who needs it.

I hope that Vaughn returns, he's been a more than adequate backup for 5-10 minutes a game. But he isn't an outside threat. Even if Finley and Barry both return, I think the Spurs need a younger, more reliable spot up shooter - in the mold of Peja - a big gun from the outside who can catch and shoot - not another ballhandler or driver. They also need a mobile PF to guard the likes of Amare and DWest, help Timmy on the boards and score 8-10 ppg. HOPEFULLY, that guy is Mahinmi. Bruce is famous for his incredible off-season conditioning program, but he's getting older, too. Is Udoka his successor? Admittedly, Artest is an outstanding defender, so if he could become more pass-oriented on the offensive end, he would be a great defensive asset. But he's not real young, and he just had surgery.

I see some free agents with game that I like, but I don't see any with the skill set that the Spurs really need. And I'm not seeing any big trades. The Spurs don't do that much. Besides, once you get beyond their free agents, there just aren't many players the Spurs will have under contract beyond the big 3. Bonner? Udoka? Bowen? Not a lot of trade value.
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?

They could resign a few guys to trade them. I'm sure most teams would like to have a good vet on their team like Barry. I'm also sure a lot of teams could use a guy like Kurt. Put the two in some sort of package deal, and I'm sure we could get someone decent.
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They could resign a few guys to trade them. I'm sure most teams would like to have a good vet on their team like Barry. I'm also sure a lot of teams could use a guy like Kurt. Put the two in some sort of package deal, and I'm sure we could get someone decent.
Possibly. IF they don't retire. Of our unrestricted FAs, those two clearly have the most value and probably are least likely to want to retire. In that case, it is possible that Thomas will be back. Barry? Pop tried to trade him year before last and succeeded in trading him last year. Pop has never thought as highly of him as I do - maybe it has to do with his D.

Of the other FAs out there, Quinton Ross (Clips), Juan Carlos Navarro (Griz), Dorell Wright (Heat) and Roger Mason (Wiz) seem kind of interesting for the Spurs. Ross and Navarro are both good-sized SGs. Mason is a good-sized combo guard who can shoot the 3 ball. Wright is 6'8" SF. Navarro and Wright are restricted. I doubt any of them will command much $ - even the restricteds. All of them are about 27 except Wright who is only 22. They are the kind of low $ role players that the Spurs usually target to fill in around the big 3.
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Re: Spurs' 2009 - Who Returns?

Looks like Redick might be looking for a trade. I think we could really use a young shooter like him. What do you guys think?
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Looks like Redick might be looking for a trade. I think we could really use a young shooter like him. What do you guys think?
I think Redick is too small. If we are interested in a trade, I like Mike Miller of the Griz. He is a big SG with a deadly shot. Memphis parted with Gasol for peanuts; maybe they'll give the Spurs a good deal, too!
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I think Redick is too small. If we are interested in a trade, I like Mike Miller of the Griz. He is a big SG with a deadly shot. Memphis parted with Gasol for peanuts; maybe they'll give the Spurs a good deal, too!
I would rather see the Spurs get some young guys to build around. Miller's not "old" per se, but in two years we'd be in the same predicament.

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Chris Duhon and Lasagna Diop are perfect fits for this team.
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