[Turkish Delight]

Originally posted by Original ScarFace!


As long as the Boston Red Sox and the New York Yankees exist and no salary cap in MLB there will never be another good year for baseball in Canada. Unless Ted Rogers the owner of the Blue Jays decides to start competing financially with the other teams.

Yeah really, they need a salary cap.
I guess the fans wouldn't like it as much though, they wouldn't get to see the Sox and the Yankees bidding on just about every free agent out there. Doesn't it kind of get repetitive?

[butr]

Originally posted by Budweiser_Boy!
Shoulda traded him after 2003...

No trade clause.

[Petey]

Originally posted by pspot!
wow im surprised i thought he would jump on the mets ship, i guess good weather is worth more then winning

Why doesn't Florida and their young arms have just as good a chance as winning?

-Petey

[Petey]

Originally posted by Turkish Delight!


Yeah really, they need a salary cap.
I guess the fans wouldn't like it as much though, they wouldn't get to see the Sox and the Yankees bidding on just about every free agent out there. Doesn't it kind of get repetitive?

Really? I don't remember us (Yankees) going after Beltran, Delgado or Pedro. They may have used us to drive up the price, but did we have a real interest in them?

-Petey

[ansoncarter]

Originally posted by Petey!


Really? I don't remember us (Yankees) going after Beltran, Delgado or Pedro. They may have used us to drive up the price, but did we have a real interest in them?

-Petey

all they could scrounge up this season was Randy Johnson

he's no match for the guys we got (I don't even remember their names. Hillendbrande and ??)

[ansoncarter]

oh yeah. Some guy called Shoe. cool name. He's prolly a keeper

[JuniorNoboa]

Originally posted by Petey!


Really? I don't remember us (Yankees) going after Beltran, Delgado or Pedro. They may have used us to drive up the price, but did we have a real interest in them?

-Petey

We must commend the Yanks for their great efforts at cost control. It must have been tough deciding to hold pat on a $203M payroll.

And talking of driving up prices surely the Yanks cannot be accused of such:
- Giambi
- Mussina
- JETER's 150M contract
- Vazquez
- Paying over $5M to middle relivers is great stuff. (remember Karsay)
- Signing 40 year olds to multi-year 16 million dollar extensions.
- Driving up the market for mediocore pitchers with one good year (Pavano and Wright). Those signings really kept the market under control this offseason.

Once again I commend the Yanks. the great bastions of cost control.

I also wish that Jeffrey Loria, David Samson, Bud Seling, and troll GNats fans would die.

Montreal Expos - 1994's Best Team in Baseball.

[Afternoon Delight]

The thing that bugs me the most about this is the fact that we lost him for absolutely nothing. I hope no other Blue Jay ever has a no trade clause in his contract. I mean I can't see anyway we are going to replace his minimum 30 HR and 100RBI. That being said I wish him good luck in Florida.

[Petey]

Driving up salary?

*Giambi makes less than Manny. Was signed after.
*Mussina got his contract after Maddux and Brown signed their larger deals.
*Jeter got his contract after ARod, orignally Steinbrenner offered less, but after ARod signed, he had to raise the deal.
*Vazquez signed a contract similar to the one the Tigers gave Jeff Weaver.
*Karsay... ah yes, bad move.
*Mets blew up the market. Did Pavano take less money? Yes.

-Petey

Originally posted by JuniorNoboa!
We must commend the Yanks for their great efforts at cost control. It must have been tough deciding to hold pat on a $203M payroll.

And talking of driving up prices surely the Yanks cannot be accused of such:
- Giambi
- Mussina
- JETER's 150M contract
- Vazquez
- Paying over $5M to middle relivers is great stuff. (remember Karsay)
- Signing 40 year olds to multi-year 16 million dollar extensions.
- Driving up the market for mediocore pitchers with one good year (Pavano and Wright). Those signings really kept the market under control this offseason.

Once again I commend the Yanks. the great bastions of cost control.

I also wish that Jeffrey Loria, David Samson, Bud Seling, and troll GNats fans would die.

Montreal Expos - 1994's Best Team in Baseball.

[JuniorNoboa]

Originally posted by Petey!
Driving up salary?

*Giambi makes less than Manny. Was signed after. [b] At the time it seemed OK I'll grant you that. Then again your comparing him to a contract that the other bastions of cost control the RED SOX gave. I do prefer Yanks fan to Red Sox fans. At least Yank fans acknowledge they spend alot - Red Sox fans whine and cry poor when they have the second highest payrol in baseball[/b
*Mussina got his contract after Maddux and Brown signed their larger deals. And Maddux and Brown were MUCH. MUCH, better pitchers
*Jeter got his contract after ARod, orignally Steinbrenner offered less, but after ARod signed, he had to raise the deal. Comparison is not valid because Arod is an all-time great, and Jeter is an overrated player, who is barely an all-star. He should earn Omar Vizquel type money
*Vazquez signed a contract similar to the one the Tigers gave Jeff Weaver. He was arb eligible - did not need to extend him so soon
*Karsay... ah yes, bad move.
*Mets blew up the market. Did Pavano take less money? Yes. Mets blew up the market for a proven talent, not a one year wonder (s) who have Severe injury problems over there career.

-Petey

[onecooljew]

So with the departure of Carlos...looks like the Jays could possibly have a solid team in a few years...with the future of the team looking like this...

C-Quiroz
1B-Crozier
2B-O-Dog
SS-Russ Adams
3B-Koskie/Hinske

RF-Rios
CF-Wells
LF-Gross

SP-Doc
SP-Jason Arnold
SP-McGowan
SP-Bush
SP-Chacin

Could be good if most of the young'ins reach their potential!

[Austin Kent]

Originally posted by Budweiser_Boy!
foolio...

As if you just said that.

I like Delgado, he'll be missed but it's not like we're doing anything anytime soon with him.

Anybody else stoked to see Koch coming back?

[Turkish Delight]

Originally posted by Lope31!


As if you just said that.

I like Delgado, he'll be missed but it's not like we're doing anything anytime soon with him.

Anybody else stoked to see Koch coming back?

He has the talent, but he just loses focus sometimes, and blows a lot of saves.
I'm happy to see him here though, he has a heck of an arm, and he really is the darkhorse in our lineup. If he can come in and save some games for us, we wil be well off, because as you know our bullpen was our main weakness last season.

[JuniorNoboa]

Originally posted by onecooljew!
So with the departure of Carlos...looks like the Jays could possibly have a solid team in a few years...with the future of the team looking like this...

C-Quiroz
1B-Crozier
2B-O-Dog
SS-Russ Adams
3B-Koskie/Hinske

RF-Rios
CF-Wells
LF-Gross

SP-Doc
SP-Jason Arnold
SP-McGowan
SP-Bush
SP-Chacin

Could be good if most of the young'ins reach their potential!

A lot of decent low ceiling prospects. Does not look so good. Ricky Riccardo deals under a good framework. He is relatively useless when it comes to apply it. And like his daddy Billy Beane, he is not a great contract negotiator - i.e Jermaine Dye and Scott Schoenweis.

[Crossword]

Moneyball is overrated anyway. You can't "play" moneyball in the AL East... it just doesn't work that way. Not with the Yankees, Red Sox, and even the Orioles breaking the bank and slapping players in the face with cash.