[TRON]

all-ages aside, this would definetely be on my to-do list if it wasn't for the $60 price
I like Tribe, but c'mon!!

Kool Haus isn't my favorite venue either, but it all depends on who sets up the sound stage

The sound for the Roots concerts were horrible, I couldn't hear anything Black Thought said, but it was much better for the Nas concert

[VTRapsfan]

I'm thinking that if a teenage kid listens to Tribe enough to want to go to their show, he's probably not the kind of annoying idiot that listens to 50 Cent.

[shookem]

Originally Posted by Budweiser_Boy

shookem... come on dawg, are you acting like I don't go to shows?

Weezer will attract idiot kids because of their last album and songs like "Beverly Hills". Just like Green Day will. You have to realize a lot of these kids haven't even heard the Blue Album or Dookie. It's the same crowd for shows like Billy Talent (where the only older people were the kids' ****ing parents) and the Used. Lots of idiot kids.

As for Slayer, I'm guessing you're talking about the July 4th show... a big thing with that crowd had to do with their opening bands. Lamb of God and Children of Bodom are "in-bands" for those hardcore, gothy idiot kids. I liken that to the Deftones show I saw in April... most of the crowd wasn't even there for them, but rather openers like Atreyu and As I Lay Dying. As sad as it is, Slayer and the Deftones aren't the ones selling those tickets anymore. I've seen both those bands before, Slayer in 2002, Deftones in 2003, without the long list of hip openers, and the crowds were totally different - much older.

In fact, I'd say all-ages underground hip hop shows (The Roots, K-Os, etc.) and all-ages metal shows (Machine Head, Slayer, etc.) cover the same general demographic in their crowd age groups.

When it comes down to it, people go to see the artists they're familiar with. And the younger crowd is much more familiar with a band like System of a Down than they are with umm say, A Tribe Called Quest(!!!) lol... I won't expect idiot kids at that one, even if it is all-ages.

The problem with all ages shows is the mixing of age groups though.

Slayer fans and Atreyu fans don't mix. It's always the 28 year old picking on the 14 year olds. However, you're right that a 16 year old Tribe fan is probably a lot different than a 16 year old 50 Cent fan.

Slayer show = 50 ejections min.
Ozzfest= 60 min.
Up in Smoke= loose count by the third act.
Weezer= less than 10.

I only speak from experience, the experience of actually grabbing someone, ripping up their ticket and escorting them out. I'm sure you've been to plenty of concerts (although no where near as many as me, I can guarentee that, I'm talking over 1000 concerts if you include local punk and hip hop shows).

All the same, sign me up for a shift at THE BOVINE SEX CLUB before I'll get anywhere near Notorious.

I also base a lot of this on how much play I get from the ladies and goth chicks hit on me waaaay more then hiphop grrls.

The main thing is, at hip hop shows everyone thinks they're a big shot. Everybody knows someone from the band or the label, or they claim to at least, and they get pissed when you deny them access somewhere. That's not the case at metal shows. I've been threatned by kids at hiphop shows (bad bad idea hommie), not by metal kids though (other then the rent-a-cop stuff).

The other end of that is that hiphop kids don't want to go anywhere near the cops, as soon as they show up, everything changes. The metal kids just fight harder (another bad idea dude).

You're right though the tribe show probably won't have a lot of problem kids, however amoungst the security crowd, all ages hiphop shows are the worst to work.

[shookem]

When in doubt blame everything on Project Bounce...lol.

[ATLien]

LOL @ all the generalizations & stereotypes here.