[Stratagee]

yeah he;s a hard nosed guy that will do the dirty work, solid defense unless he gets too pumped up and picks up stupid fouls. Other than that a pretty good pick in the 10th round.

[fruitcake]

Originally Posted by Stratagee

critize my bench, lemme guess what your gonna say " wright is done, posey and james just chuck up 3's, hakim isnt proven" something ridiculous along those lines am i right?

uhh actaully no. I didn't compare your bench to mine for a reason. Unlike most of the other people who said my bench sucks and theirs is the best, you actually gave me some advice on my team.

James Jones was a good pick, Hakim Warrick is as unproven as Aldridge/May. I never said anybody was unproven. Do you read? Notice how I critisized how iatlhawksfans' big men were unproven as mine, rendering that 'unproven' point useless.

Posey is at least a good defender.

I would say your bench and Rockstone's bench are in the upper echelon of benches.

I'm not picking benches to critisize. If you're read anything I've written instead of saying its all bull****, then you know it has some meaning.
You think everything I've said is ridiculous? Do you even watch basketball?

[Stratagee]

dude i've watched basketball ever since i could remember, i play bball. i've even played for my cities team. So in fact i'm pretty sure i know what im talking about man, and you at least gave some good criticism this time instead of bashing teams. That's what i was getting at man.

[fruitcake]

Originally Posted by Stratagee

dude i've watched basketball ever since i could remember, i play bball. i've even played for my cities team. So in fact i'm pretty sure i know what im talking about man, and you at least gave some good criticism this time instead of bashing teams. That's what i was getting at man.

I'm not randomly bashing teams. I've bashed 3 and praised 2.

maybe you should tell people to say why they think their bench is better, instead of just saying outright how terrible my bench is. I am open to reasonable discussion. That would be a lot more mature than telling me to keep my mouth shut and everything I say is ridiculous.

[southeasy]

i have to go play the sport i love, on such a nice thanksgiving day, but rest assured, when i get back, you'll hear about my bench, don't forget just because you have 12:10 ratio of players at this moment, everyone will finish with 12, there are still good pieces out there, and as far as benches go, if you think salim stoudamire & donyell one year after he campaign with toronto, where he BLEW UP, yes did you watch the guy? he is far from DONE, and i never said griffin was good, i said he has an excuse, being a problem with his vision which was documented that he corrected this offseason.

Anyways, keep up the good old fashioned combatant benchs.

mines still better no matter what fruittyloopz says.

[Pain5155]

Originally Posted by southeasy

LOL@ you all thinking you have the best bench, i'll go with the flow and say, No, I have the best bench.

my bench has 3 starters on it. who else can say that?

whos ur 3 starters off the bench? i see a bunch of bench players.

[Stratagee]

Hakim War-axe on your heads.

[o.iatlhawksfan]

just selected Monta Ellis, i feel i have good defense off my bench, but I need a scorer thats not afraid to take shots, I think monta fits that. Monta averaged 7pts in just 18 minutes last season, and he'll have a bigger role this season. He also has alot of potiential.

[fruitcake]

Originally Posted by jericho

I can't tell whether I'm intrigued by my team or embarrassed by it (see lineup in signature).

The closest analogue in today's NBA is the Nets, although Nash is a much superior shooter and inferior defender compared to Kidd. Brezec is my Krstic, and Evans is my Collins (a better rebounder, but less size to throw around on defense). I've got 5 legitimate three-point threats so far, so my game has got to be run-and-gun and stop-and-pop.

Jefferson and Patterson are good defenders on the perimeter and George and Redd are underrated, but my bigs aren't stoppers. I have no illusions about the Suns' ability to defend in the half court with my current lineup, so barring a major trade, we'll just aim to run everyone into the ground.

I see where the comparison to the Nets is coming, but Nash does run a different game than Kidd does, at least at this stage in their careers. Kidd has blossomed with Vince as a half-court general, tho he does run as often as he can with RJ.

Your core of Nash, Redd and RJ should be fun to watch. Redd, Nash, and Van Horn can shoot the three. George can somewhat. But I think RJ is still a little too inconsistent at this point. (His 3P% has regressed his last 2 years).

I understand the KVH pick (a big who can shoot the three), but I think he could have been had much later in the draft, and it might have been a better idea to pick a quick guard who can provide some instant offense off the bench (like Eddie House). Yes, Patterson is a good perimeter defender, but his game doesn't fit that well with your system, and I dont think he's gonna get many minutes playing under your two main options on offense (RJ and Redd).

You need a solid backup for Nash and one more lights out shooter (which could be Nash's backup).

Evans was a good pick, he'll do the dirty work and grab the rebounds to start the break. Brezec...I dunno. Back to the NJ comparison (you compared Brezec to Krstic), the Nets don't run much at all, they are primarily a half-court team now, and like Krstic, Brezec would be much more effective in a half-court system. But, to tell you the truth, I really don't know much about Brezec's game other than the fact that he can shoot, and he's tall and lanky. I would try to get an energetic, hustle-type backup center for Brezec

[DWADE4]

Originally Posted by southeasy

LOL@ you all thinking you have the best bench, i'll go with the flow and say, No, I have the best bench.

my bench has 3 starters on it. who else can say that?

Qrich can be a starter, Raef starter last season for Boston, Adonal Foyle starter for Golden State.

[jericho]

Originally Posted by fruitcake

I see where the comparison to the Nets is coming, but Nash does run a different game than Kidd does, at least at this stage in their careers. Kidd has blossomed with Vince as a half-court general, tho he does run as often as he can with RJ.

Your core of Nash, Redd and RJ should be fun to watch. Redd, Nash, and Van Horn can shoot the three. George can somewhat. But I think RJ is still a little too inconsistent at this point. (His 3P% has regressed his last 2 years).

I understand the KVH pick (a big who can shoot the three), but I think he could have been had much later in the draft, and it might have been a better idea to pick a quick guard who can provide some instant offense off the bench (like Eddie House). Yes, Patterson is a good perimeter defender, but his game doesn't fit that well with your system, and I dont think he's gonna get many minutes playing under your two main options on offense (RJ and Redd).

You need a solid backup for Nash and one more lights out shooter (which could be Nash's backup).

Evans was a good pick, he'll do the dirty work and grab the rebounds to start the break. Brezec...I dunno. Back to the NJ comparison (you compared Brezec to Krstic), the Nets don't run much at all, they are primarily a half-court team now, and like Krstic, Brezec would be much more effective in a half-court system. But, to tell you the truth, I really don't know much about Brezec's game other than the fact that he can shoot, and he's tall and lanky. I would try to get an energetic, hustle-type backup center for Brezec

Thanks for the thoughtful response, fruitcake! I agree Patterson's kind of a clunky fit in this system, and he could be available for the right offer...but I was feeling desperate to add someone who could guard their own shadow.

I don't expect a ton from Brezec, but wanted to make sure I had a big man who could score somewhere near the basket, and choices were pretty limited by the fifth round. Van Horn doesn't appear to have much life left in him, but I think both Keith and Devean George could be double figure scorers playing alongside Nash. George especially, since he can defend well enough to stay on the court for stretches of time.

As for Nash's backup, well...here he comes.

[jericho]

Beno might've been available still in the next round...but maybe not, and I like his court sense and his ability to shoot the 3. He was buried behind Nick Van Exel at times last year, but he should be Tony Parker's primary backup this year. And I'll add some more depth at PG with one of my last couple picks.