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02-24-2005, 03:04 PM
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Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
Its times like these where i miss Glen very very much, yes he couldn't draft for beans but i remember his uncanny ability to make wonderful trades when no one expected them to happen. Maybe its the post trade hangover talking and frustration for our current joke of a GM but goddamn i am pissed off  |
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02-24-2005, 03:09 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
I never thought Glen was a poor GM, but at the same time the few mistakes he made were so major that you can't look past them. So far Babcock's mistakes haven't amounted to close to losing McGrady, signing Alvin, Jerome, Hakeem, and 'Tone to hefty contracts, drafting Bradley and Jeffries, or hiring Kevin O'Neill.
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02-24-2005, 03:16 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
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Its times like these where i miss Glen very very much, yes he couldn't draft for beans but i remember his uncanny ability to make wonderful trades when no one expected them to happen.
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Everyone knew that Antonio Davis was going to get traded.
That wasn't much of a surprise at all.
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02-24-2005, 03:21 PM
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I never thought Glen was a poor GM, but at the same time the few mistakes he made were so major that you can't look past them. So far Babcock's mistakes haven't amounted to close to losing McGrady, signing Alvin, Jerome, Hakeem, and 'Tone to hefty contracts, drafting Bradley and Jeffries, or hiring Kevin O'Neill.
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Didn't you have a "We Belive In Kevin O'Neill" club? 
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02-24-2005, 03:26 PM
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Didn't you have a "We Belive In Kevin O'Neill" club? |
I think it was, " I Trust KO"
Not 100% sure.
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02-24-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
It was "I trust KO".
I don't blame O'Neill. I think we didn't have the players to match the coach. With the right group of guys I think he would've been a fine coach.
I blame Grunwald for selecting someone who was unlikely to gel with the team, though.
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02-24-2005, 04:38 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
Grunwald was good in the beginning but then suck near the end of his career with the Raps when he started signing garbage players and just trying to patch up problems wit our team with no name cheap free agenst.. im glaid hes gone... I still trust Babcock but when I read some of these trades like the Spurs and the Kincks and the Kincks and Houston how could we not of gotten something for Marshall????
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02-25-2005, 01:12 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
most interesting possibility, could we have gotten 2 first rounders plus Malik Rose for Donyell? I don't know, but if so, we would then have two players named Rose that are overpaid, but more assets to play with (2 first rounders)
GM's around the league will have to see if this guy is for real, before he gets any respect in negotiations. Right now, Babcock is that scrawny little kid on the playground that always gets jacked for his lunch money. He needs to get away for a summer, bulk up and make everyone forget this year's decisions.
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02-26-2005, 03:10 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
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Were we to harsh on glen grundwald??? :
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Yogi
Hakeem
Mark Jackson
Micheal Bradley
Chris Jeffries
... no.
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02-26-2005, 04:19 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
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Yogi
Hakeem
Mark Jackson
Micheal Bradley
Chris Jeffries
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Jonathan Bender
Aleksandar Radojevic
and also giving Antonio that huge contract.
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02-26-2005, 05:38 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
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Jonathan Bender
Aleksandar Radojevic
and also giving Antonio that huge contract.
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please dont mention Radojevic I mean we could of had
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02-26-2005, 10:08 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
OK i've been convinced
seriously though babcock has arguably made about 3 horrid moves in his first year maybe more depending on what u concider a mistake. Its about patience i guess but its so hard |
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02-26-2005, 10:11 PM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
I think we're being too harsh on Babcock as it is. People have absolutely zero patience in Toronto.
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02-27-2005, 12:03 AM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
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I think we're being too harsh on Babcock as it is. People have absolutely zero patience in Toronto.
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No I meant sg. I type really fast and carelessly ask anyone. I hate speeling and grammer. I only care about it in English where i got an A. What do you mean they are starting Parker.
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I think Toronto's hate of Vince has a lot to do with Canada's hate of America. I totally agree if Vince wasnt on the Raps they would face the same fate as the Grizzlies they would be moved. Vince did not quit on you. You quit on Vince.
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02-27-2005, 07:48 AM
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Re: Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
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In Grunwald's defense, he never really gave Jonathan Bender a chance. This kid has a truckload of potential, but he can never seem to stay health. I felt the Raptors should've hung on to him.
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Were we to harsh on glen grundwald???
