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03-15-2005, 10:27 AM
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Re: Brown?
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Originally Posted by lucky777s
I would have to think Kwame is going to get a 10 mill+ starting salary from somebody.
No chance of a sign and trade with the Raps for that kind of money.
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WHAT!? 10 mil a year... for Kwame Brown... that is insane.
With how inconsistent and unmotivated he has been a contract like that could be one of the worst ever handed out.
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03-15-2005, 10:29 AM
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Re: Brown?
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WHAT!? 10 mil a year... for Kwame Brown... that is insane.
With how inconsistent and unmotivated he has been a contract like that could be one of the worst ever handed out.
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10 million for Brown would make KMart look like a huge bargain... LOL
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03-15-2005, 11:01 AM
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Re: Brown?
My feeling is that Rob isn't going to take on any attitude problems - I could be wrong, since he signed Rafer to a big contract, but I think that's a different story. He'll take a chance on a guy who's wound a little tight, but doubt he'd make a move for a guy with no/low motivation.
Brown's shown some skills, but he's still a project and IMO not one that'd fit in with the type of team the Raps are trying to put together.
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03-15-2005, 12:36 PM
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Re: Brown?
I guess some of you missed the signings of Okur, Murphy, Foyle over the summer. And the fact that about a dozen teams in the league are looking for a legit C. Maybe more.
You can pretty much book a 5yr/50+mill contract for Kwame.
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03-15-2005, 12:49 PM
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Re: Brown?
^those guys (except maybe Foyle) showed what they could do in this league on a consistant basis. Kwame, while still very young has yet to prove that. If he can have a break out contract year (like Eddy Curry), then he will definetely get his 10 Mil a year
Right now based on his play, he shouldn't get more than 8 a year, but I could be wrong as his size and potential could drive up demand for his services
considering we could lose Donyell for nothing, I would take on anything that wouldn't hinder this team financially long term
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03-15-2005, 01:19 PM
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Re: Brown?
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Originally Posted by TRON
^those guys (except maybe Foyle) showed what they could do in this league on a consistant basis. Kwame, while still very young has yet to prove that. If he can have a break out contract year (like Eddy Curry), then he will definetely get his 10 Mil a year
Right now based on his play, he shouldn't get more than 8 a year, but I could be wrong as his size and potential could drive up demand for his services
considering we could lose Donyell for nothing, I would take on anything that wouldn't hinder this team financially long term
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Happy birthday, Tron.
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03-15-2005, 01:48 PM
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Re: Brown?
Just found this:
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The Wizards Kwame Brown is considered a cornerstone and would like to remain with the team, but boldly turned down a contract offer in the fall, reportedly worth $30-million over four years, in hopes of securing a better offer. Brown, however, has missed much of the season with a broken foot and ankle injury, which will not help him at the bargaining table. But the league is full of teams willing to throw millions of dollars at a promising young big man. Seven-footers with Brown's ability remain rare.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...nba/index.html
So he turned down 4 years 30 million (avg 7.5 per season) his agent def. thinks that hes worth 8-10 million on the open market.
Kwame is worth that much - ( see lucky's post) as other players of roughly equal abilities have received it. On the other hand I wouldn't give him that kind of money, as he really has produced very little compared to his "potential", and has missed most of this year with injuries.
As for Luckys list of big contracst from last year, Brown is better than Foyle and Okur ( well, maybe Okur) and not as good as Murphy. Expect him to get the same kind of deal.
His best season (last season) he got 7.5 Rebs and 11ppg in 30 minutes. Thats fine as a stepping stone, but its not number 1 pick Center numbers, and he is not shotblocker despite my remembrance of him as one (.7 BPG)
This year even when healthy he can't get on the floor with Jamison, Haywood, Jefferies all getting more minutes than him.
So bottom line is unless he plays significantly better, he is putting up similar numbers as Donyell, but banking on the potential to get a huge deal.
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03-15-2005, 07:47 PM
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Re: Brown?
kwame is good. plays solid post D. has all the physical tools-- he's bigger than his nba list.
barring a long-max deal, kwame plays out his qualifying year, pockets his $6,970,435, becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2006.
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03-15-2005, 07:59 PM
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Re: Brown?
I'd love to see Kwame in a Raptors uni, and I'm sure they can fit him in as a C here, but that'll really make that Araujo pick look like a waste wouldn't it?
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03-15-2005, 08:10 PM
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Re: Brown?
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I'd love to see Kwame in a Raptors uni, and I'm sure they can fit him in as a C here, but that'll really make that Araujo pick look like a waste wouldn't it?
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turn it around- a bosh/brown/haffa pivot would be fantastic.
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03-15-2005, 08:33 PM
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Happy birthday DINOSAUR, too!
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03-15-2005, 08:53 PM
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Re: Brown?
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turn it around- a bosh/brown/haffa pivot would be fantastic.
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I'm sure it'd be fantastic, especially if Brown manages to play up to his potential. But then, wouldn't it still be a tad waste of such a high pick, for Hoffa to come off the bench?
Anyway, I like the idea of Brown coming over. I'm sure he can handle playing center, and he + Bosh will form a potentially amazing frontcourt.
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03-15-2005, 10:34 PM
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Re: Brown?
For 10 million a year... no thanks. Not going to happen.
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03-15-2005, 11:41 PM
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Re: Brown?
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For 10 million a year... no thanks. Not going to happen.
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Definately in agreeance with that comment.
I would be hard pressed to dish out someone like Eddy Curry, who's actually shown some promise this season, not to someone like Kwame Brown who hasn't really shown much of anything while in the NBA.
As I said earlier, I'd be delighted to see him on our team, but the price might be too high for Babcock to take him.
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