Petey

BUMP...

See?

-Petey

osman

Wow, I guess his career as a Wizard is over...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

speedythief

Wow. I bet most teams in the League will be inquiring about him this summer. And his pricetag might've fallen from 8-9 a year to 6-8, now. Interesting.

Petey

As I said I don't think the Wizards will give him a qualifing offer so he'll be unrestricted. His qualifing offer will be for 7+ million. A one year deal at that is better than the MLE.

-Petey

djmyte

A Marshall/Kwame swap would benefit both teams. The Wizards are already loaded with talent/potential and the next in becoming a true contender is to acquire good veteran players, which is exactly what Marshall is. He wouldn't take any of the spotlight away from Arenas et al. and would certainly contribute on the court. 8-10 boards, 12-15ppg, decent defense, versatility, mobility.

As for Kwame, obviously he has great physical talent but from what Ive seen he doesn't appear to have it "upstairs". With that said, he'd certainly be our best option at center and would give us some more hope for the future.

changv10

The guy gets booed ... AT HOME IN WASHINGTON !
Kwame got suspended for the rest of the playoffs ... BY HIS OWN TEAM !

Sure, he has showned some signs of improvement ... but the kid is still raw. It will take some balls to give this kid a multi million dollar contract starting over 7 million. Risking a nutcase.

I would prefer trading for Etan Thomas instead of Kwame. He can fill up the middle for us. A big, strong, athletic guy with a good work ethic. Wizards are paying him too much to backup Haywood. They even have Ramos signed for a few more years too.

djmyte

Agreed. Kwame's deal would have to be reasonable. 4-5mil starting, not 7+.

Don't see the Wiz giving Thomas up, at least I wouldnt if I were them. Decent contract, good player.

ATLien

Kwame is a legit 7 footer. He can play the 5, no problem.

ballocks

10+ for kwame? i'd seriously doubt that. who knows, some team may come to the market ready to play this summer, but there are many reasons why i don't believe he'll even come close to securing that kind of a deal:

1) i don't think the contracts handed out over the past few years are at all indicative of what we'll see this off-season. i think management teams have slowly begun to realize the paralysis that comes with signing long-term, enormous deals. i think the league overall will begin to exercise some more caution over the next few seasons- and that's with bona fide stars. kwame brown? i don't think he even belongs in the discussion.

2) we're talking about a 7/5 player this season. it doesn't matter to me whether he went #1 a couple of years ago or whatever, just because the man turned down a large deal last summer doesn't necessarily guarantee him a larger deal this summer. i mean, you do have to earn it.

3) kwame's also spent a large chunk of this year injured. his numbers have been weak, yes, but his health problems would depress his value even further (imo).

4) his "intangibles" have just led the wizards to suspend him for the rest of the playoff season. doesn't sound like a 10+ player to me, and it doesn't sound like the wizards consider him all that important themselves. i mean, think about it: they're in the playoffs for the first time in years and they decide to suspend a player who's going to "command 10+ this summer"? i doubt it. if he's that good he'd be playing.

5) moreover, the wizards are one of the only teams in a position to sign kwame to a big contract so i don't think there's going to be a bidding war resembling those of the past. the number of franchises with cap room today is less than it's ever been, and the few teams who do have some money to spend are presumably going to be dropping those contracts on bigger names and more valuable players than kwame brown. i mean, i think that's obvious. this isn't the summer of 2002- i think things have changed considerably and the new cba will only go to change them even more.

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anyway, i think this discussion bothers me because i don't think it'd be the same if kwame were drafted by the raptors, and in the same position this summer with toronto. i think some fans (including those on these boards) would think less of his value if he were effectively the same player but with the raptors instead of the wizards. i don't think this guy will even come close to a max deal for the reasons outlined above- i'd be legitimately surprised if he received more than the MLE- and i think that that opinion would be more accepted (maybe too accepted) if he were playing for the raptors. i think some fans would in that case: a) think far less of his trade value than they do now; b) think he'd "definitely" go elsewhere for < MLE ("just to get out of toronto").

that bothers me quite a bit.

peace

lucky777s

Things have changed now. The likelihood of 10 mill per is much, much lower now. Could still be a team or two that considers it though.

Most likely his value falls to the 7-8 range. Not below. Just take a look at what is available on the FA market. Not much. And this kid has all the tools to be an all-star if he can get his head straight.

You can't count on Marshall in any S&T's. Its too much to expect BOTH Kwame and Donny wanting to go to Toronto and Washington respectively.

But a package of Hoffa, EWill, and the DEN pick could do the job. Hoff is all they need as bench big man behind Haywood, Etan, and Jeffries. Plus they have PJ Ramos. EWill gives them another vet leader and defensive player.

Porn_Player

i first red the post thinkin we have no chance in hell of gettin a young player and as usual redin the posts have left me thinkin

a) yes we could actaully get this player

b) yet i dnt think we'd even want him

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Junkyard Dog13

what about stormilre swift instead he does not have attitude problems saleries would likely be in same range.

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Petey

I'm pretty sure Swift didn't play in the playoffs either. Some accuse him of sitting out to increase / protect his FA value this summer.

-Petey

KeonBackinTO

Kwame would be great for the Raptors. The Raps should try their best to get him. With Bosh playing beside him it will motivate him to get better. They'll battle each other all year.

If they don't get him they will pick some undersized C in the draft or a high risk. Might as well try and get Brown and some gaurds in the draft.

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Chris Taft

You guys do realize you have the 7th selection in the draft right? Draft Chris Taft! He is a freak. Play him at center. Then try and get some one like Larry Hughes(if he leaves.. Dont know cap etc.) or a two gaurd with Donyell. You dont want to be the one's to try and fix all the habits/attitude problems that have been created in a toxic enviorment. Dont get me wrong i think brown has talent, but Chris Taft is the real deal.