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**Petey** · 03-14-2005, 08:30 PM

What about a sign and trade this offseason between the Raptors and Wizards.

Swapping resigned Marshall (Pick?) for Brown...

With the Wizards's stable, they would add a VET PF, and you would get to play a still improving Brown (23) with Bosh.

Thoughts?

-Petey

trick · 03-14-2005, 08:38 PM

i'd do it and run away asap

**Crossword** · 03-14-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by trick

i'd do it and run away asap

ditto

**Petey** · 03-14-2005, 08:41 PM

Any thoughts on if the Wizards would consider it?

They really haven't developed him much, and would Marshall be a better fit?

-Petey

**Crossword** · 03-14-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Petey

Any thoughts on if the Wizards would consider it?

They really haven't developed him much, and would Marshall be a better fit?

-Petey

It depends on what the market value for him is. It's probably pretty low, trade-wise. But there's a chance that someone like Portland or Atlanta will offer him a mad contract. In that case, I wouldn't pull the sign and trade, especially since Bosh plays the same position. Which is another issue - would we want to pay upwards of $7-8 million a year for a bench player (assuming that's what he gets in the sign & trade) who plays the same position as our future star?

Then again, on a talent level, it's pure demolition for the Raptors. Plus we might be able to flip him for another player who fills a need.

**Petey** · 03-14-2005, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Budweiser_Boy

It depends on what the market value for him is. It's probably pretty low, trade-wise. But there's a chance that someone like Portland or Atlanta will offer him a mad contract. In that case, I wouldn't pull the sign and trade, especially since Bosh plays the same position. Which is another issue - would we want to pay upwards of $7-8 million a year for a bench player (assuming that's what he gets in the sign & trade) who plays the same position as our future star?

Then again, on a talent level, it's pure demolition for the Raptors. Plus we might be able to flip him for another player who fills a need.

Don't think Brown and Bosh could play the 4/5 like Marion and Amare do for the Suns?

-Petey

**Crossword** · 03-14-2005, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Petey

Don't think Brown and Bosh could play the 4/5 like Marion and Amare do for the Suns?

-Petey

Well those are different situations, as Bosh and Brown play the same position to begin (Marion is not a PF), but Bosh won't play center, and I'm not sure about Brown playing the 5, although if Antonio Davis could do it then I guess it could work.

**speedythief** · 03-14-2005, 08:52 PM

I'm a Kwame fan. I think he still has a lot of potential. I thought that his first seasons in the League were a real difficult situation for him, with Jordan mismanaging the team, and with him being the first high-schooler to be taken #1.

I remember him having a really good game against us a few years ago where he dominated the boards. I know a lot of good rebounders punish us, but he looked really special that night. If we could get part of that, and get it with consistency, we would be in a good way.

The problem with a S&T plus a pick is that we're probably going to have to give him a whopping contract that he really hasn't earned.

Still... the potential of a Bosh/Brown frontline is really huge. They are both super-athletic, long, shotblocking players with good mobility.

But this is all predicated on Washington being willing to part with Brown for Marshall and one of our two picks this year, so one between 8-13. So Donyell at ~$32M for 5 years, maybe, and a pick? Would they really rather have that than re-sign Kwame?

Wizards fans?

And I think he can play centre with guys like Bosh and Araujo on the team with him.

Cam*Ron · 03-14-2005, 08:52 PM

Kwame Brown is a Center.

**Petey** · 03-14-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cam*Ron

Kwame Brown is a Center.

A bit undersized, but I think he can do it.

-Petey

**superdude211** · 03-14-2005, 08:57 PM

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kwame_....html?nav=page

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Position: F-C
Born: 03/10/82
Height: 6-11 / 2,11
Weight: 243 lbs. / 110,2 kg.
High School: Glynn Academy HS (GA)

JuniorNoboa · 03-14-2005, 09:06 PM

Can't see Washington going for this unless we offer one of our own picks. I don't think the Denver 2005 pick would be enough

One on One · 03-15-2005, 08:55 AM

Is this some sort of joke? Marshall as in Donyell Marshall? Maybe if he hit like 8 3s every game!

lucky777s · 03-15-2005, 08:59 AM

I would have to think Kwame is going to get a 10 mill+ starting salary from somebody.

No chance of a sign and trade with the Raps for that kind of money.

**speedythief** · 03-15-2005, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lucky777s

I would have to think Kwame is going to get a 10 mill+ starting salary from somebody.

No chance of a sign and trade with the Raps for that kind of money.

That's the problem. He would get a big contract, and as a rebuilding team it would be hard to sacrifice our future cap space for an unproven player. I think he will be good, but who knows if he can stay healthy and continue to improve his game.

The only good scenario would be if he signs a reasonable contract, but somebody out there (Atlanta?) is willing to give him a pile to play for them and that really ties our hands.

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