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JuniorNoboa · 06-30-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TRON

TheATLien

I know you get off hating everything about this franchise, but for once why not state what your genius mind would have done so at least we have something to judge you on????

picks 7,16,41 and 58...what would you do??????
while I don't defend or condemn any of Babcocks picks, you obviously are a top level NBA talent evaluator (*sarcasm*), so why don't you bless us with your vast knowledge of the game????

Yes, please do. And please do not choose players, that are higher ranked in mocks. because you alraidy a trap for yourself they were useless. edited

you're -baiting stamina won't last. give up. speedy.

ATLien · 06-30-2005, 09:09 PM

Damn man.. why y'all doggin' on me? I'm just statin' my opinion. Isn't that what this site is for? I've been posting this site all off-season, months before the draft, but the moment I disagree with the franchise I get pissed on like R Kelly.

If it were me I would have gone with a wing at 7, and Jack at 16. I really didn't think another big was needed, but I guess I have more confidence in Sow & Araujo than others do.

JuniorNoboa · 06-30-2005, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky777s

The first draft pick from the VC trade could have landed us Gerald Green or Danny Granger. That was certainly a very valuable pick and helps balance that trade considerably. Even getting Graham with that pick could prove to be extremely nice.

Reality check:

Before this draft the idea of getting Green and Bynum was a wet dream for Raptor fans. The idea of getting Green, Bynum and Ukic would have been considered too ridiculous to even talk about. Pure fantasy. Impossible.

But the fact is the Raps could have walked away from this draft with Bynum, Green, and Ukic.

That is what you have to compare the final result to. That is why I don't like the draft. Not because I don't like the players we got, but because we could have done so much better.

I respect that opinion and it is a fair way to look at the draft - no qualms with your assessment if you truly beleive that Green / Bynum would be better. I disagree with your player opinions, but I like the way you thought it was a bad draft

But I am not convinced with either - this was the weakest HS class in college recruiting over the past 5 years. so the best HS'ers may have been a bit overrated.

Bynum - not convinced he was any better then Charlie V - Charlie V was a much better prospect entering college, and Charlie V has shown good progression at the NCAA.

No doubt, I would have liked Green - edited, any qualms over choosing Graham over this guy have disappeared.

exhausting. you're reaching the limit. no more of this will be tolerated. speedy.

JuniorNoboa · 06-30-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheATLien

So I can't criticize because my team sucks? That's some ****ty *** logic you got there. I'll criticize whoever the **** I want whenever the **** I want. Don't ****ing tell me what I can say and won't say. If you think I'm bashing the Raptors, I'm not. I'm just letting people know that I don't like what Babs is doing. Now what is so ****ing wrong with that? I'm not the type who is going to kiss his *** and be a ****ing cheerleader. **** that gay *** ****.

Wow great post.

it's embarassing when somebody catches you -baiting. thanks. speedy.

ATLien · 06-30-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

People in Europ like Canada more then USA.

My heart is broken.

Magus Relmyn · 06-30-2005, 09:30 PM

This thread is stupid.

trick · 06-30-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheATLien

If it were me I would have gone with a wing at 7, and Jack at 16. I really didn't think another big was needed, but I guess I have more confidence in Sow & Araujo than others do.

that's your master plan?

ok, the raps got their wing at 16. the raptors got a point guard who is arguably better prospect than jack at 41. so based on this, you wasted a pick at 7 for player[s] that would be available at 16 and the raps still struck gold at 41, a draft pick to which you had not listed a preference to.

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too much. i must put an end to this circle of -baiting. speedy.

ATLien · 06-30-2005, 11:00 PM

It doesn't matter, because Rob Babcock is one of the 3 worst GM's in the league. If you call me a troll for believing that, then so be it. I really don't give a **** what a bunch of ~~Canadians~~ say about me.

**Crossword** · 06-30-2005, 11:04 PM

This thread needs to get back on track, or else it's toast. Good premise in the OP, but it will NOT turn into a Canada vs. US debate.

FanOfAll8472 · 06-30-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by trick

that's your master plan?

ok, the raps got their wing at 16. the raptors got a point guard who is arguably better prospect than jack at 41. so based on this, you wasted a pick at 7 for player[s] that would be available at 16 and the raps still struck gold at 41, a draft pick to which you had not listed a preference to.

troll along now, troll along.

I don't think he's doing this in hindsight. Draftniks all thought Granger would be off the board at 16, so I wouldn't call taking Granger (I'm assuming he's the wing player) at #7 a bad pick. Or Jack at #16, considering I don't think many of us have seen Ukic play before. Chad Ford had Ukic rated higher than Jack, but Ford doesn't know anything.

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Damn man.. why y'all doggin' on me? I'm just statin' my opinion. Isn't that what this site is for? I've been posting this site all off-season, months before the draft, but the moment I disagree with the franchise I get pissed on like R Kelly.

If it were me I would have gone with a wing at 7, and Jack at 16. I really didn't think another big was needed, but I guess I have more confidence in Sow & Araujo than others do.

Does calling somebody a troll not qualify as baiting? Goodness, I've lost some respect for this forum. It's one man's opinion, don't be immature and start hating him just because he criticizes the team's moves.

trick · 06-30-2005, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FanOfAll8472

I don't think he's doing this in hindsight. Draftniks all thought Granger would be off the board at 16, so I wouldn't call taking Granger (I'm assuming he's the wing player) at #7 a bad pick. Or Jack at #16, considering I don't think many of us have seen Ukic play before. Chad Ford had Ukic rated higher than Jack, but Ford doesn't know anything.

do you not see the hypocrisy in all this?

for quite a few pages now he's been saying how the raptors had a crappy draft and yet he reveals his plan, hindsight or not, babcock's eventual plan proved to be better than his.

FanOfAll8472 · 06-30-2005, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by trick

do you not see the hypocrisy in all this?

for quite a few pages now he's been saying how the raptors had a crappy draft and yet he reveals his plan, hindsight or not, babcock's eventual plan proved to be better than his.

First of all, the namecalling started before he even posted his plan. Second of all, what tells you that Babcock's eventual plan is better than his? He didn't include a second round draft pick, what if that was Taft? That's a damn nice draft right there. Granger, Jack, Taft. But we still don't know if that's better than Villanueva, Graham, Ukic or not. We, unfortunately, don't have a crystal ball.

trick · 06-30-2005, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FanOfAll8472

First of all, the namecalling started before he even posted his plan. Second of all, what tells you that Babcock's eventual plan is better than his? He didn't include a second round draft pick, what if that was Taft? That's a damn nice draft right there. Granger, Jack, Taft. But we still don't know if that's better than Villanueva, Graham, Ukic or not. We, unfortunately, don't have a crystal ball.

ok

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