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06-30-2005, 11:21 AM
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The Notorious B.L.O.G.
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Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
Now that all of the <b>brilliant *sarcasm*</b> experts have somehow put a negative spin on the Raptors for getting three dynamite blue chip prospects... did they stop to consider that one of the best 3 teams in the league does not even have a center (Suns)...
...now wait a minute there power forward forward was none other than 6-7 Shawn Marion...
... there center is 6'10 245 OMG (amare Stoudamire) !!!! they could never win *sarcasm*.
<b>OK I am going on record
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- I expect the Raps to run and shoot 3's next year in much the same fashion that the suns did
- and they will be the best year over year turn around franchise as the suns were last year (Although the bobcats should also improve dramatically too).
-will make the playoffs
you can throw that back in my face a year from now if I am wrong.
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Shaq is alomst done and Eddy Curry career is in question which means there are few teams with centers over 260 lbs - geez duncan is listed as 6-11 Ben Wallace is 6-9 and detriot is a 1/2 court pick and roll team....
was I the only one who though Rasheed Wallace at 6-11 230 defended Tim better than anyone in the league?
I am not saying the Raps should not try to aquire Jamaal or some other bigger center if a deal is there - but I am saying that with this personelle they can win.
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06-30-2005, 11:25 AM
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BasketballBoards 6th Man
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
*Sniffs*
Better get the police dogs in here...........................
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06-30-2005, 11:34 AM
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
Babs was on ESPN radio yesterday afternoon. After being asked about drafting 3 players at the same position in the last 3 drafts, he likened the raptors the coming year to the same type of offence in Detroit.
Specifically their big lineup ie. Wallace 2x, and McDyess.
I like it.
Finals next year anyone.. ha
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06-30-2005, 11:38 AM
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Legend
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
Why are you defending such a **** up?
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06-30-2005, 11:44 AM
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
I like the look of this team as well, but it's not as though they didn't fire up a lot of threes last year already. In fact, this team had little trouble scoring last season!!! Their only problem was securing defensive stops/rebounds and winning consistently on the road! Coming out of January last year it looked like this was a playoff team. With the new additions and some experience this team SHOULD be .500 next April.
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06-30-2005, 12:05 PM
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
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Why are you defending such a **** up?
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Instead of simply bashing the Raptors in all your one line posts, why don't you at least give some support to your opinions.
Heck, you aren't convincing anybody.
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06-30-2005, 12:08 PM
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Legend
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
Araujo = Stiff.
VC trade = not enough. As long as Babcock is here, those picks wont do ****.
Villanueva = Bust. Has bad attitude and not many skills.
Graham = Great defender, but can't shoot or dribble.
Roko = Probably will never play in USA.
How can you defend the man who is destroying your team? I don't get it. I want the Raptors to do good, but that is never going to happen with moves like the ones I listed above.
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06-30-2005, 12:19 PM
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
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Originally Posted by charlz
Now that all of the <b>brilliant *sarcasm*</b> experts have somehow put a negative spin on the Raptors for getting three dynamite blue chip prospects... did they stop to consider that one of the best 3 teams in the league does not even have a center (Suns)...
...now wait a minute there power forward forward was none other than 6-7 Shawn Marion...
... there center is 6'10 245 OMG (amare Stoudamire) !!!! they could never win *sarcasm*.
<b>OK I am going on record
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- I expect the Raps to run and shoot 3's next year in much the same fashion that the suns did
- and they will be the best year over year turn around franchise as the suns were last year (Although the bobcats should also improve dramatically too).
-will make the playoffs
you can throw that back in my face a year from now if I am wrong.
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Shaq is alomst done and Eddy Curry career is in question which means there are few teams with centers over 260 lbs - geez duncan is listed as 6-11 Ben Wallace is 6-9 and detriot is a 1/2 court pick and roll team....
was I the only one who though Rasheed Wallace at 6-11 230 defended Tim better than anyone in the league?
I am not saying the Raps should not try to aquire Jamaal or some other bigger center if a deal is there - but I am saying that with this personelle they can win.
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Bosh and Villanueva don't have the strength, power, or aggression Amare has. Hoffa has the same strength, but he has about one half the athleticism. Shawn Marion is a freak of nature. He's always averaged around 9 rpg, even at the SF position. He has one of the quickest jumps in the NBA and one of the quickest second jumps in the NBA. He's also a damn good defender. It's hard to duplicate what they have at the 4 and the 5.
Who is going chuck 3s for the Raptors? MoPete and Alston? And? Phoenix, 1 to 4, could drain a 3. And when McCarty played some 5, he too could drain the 3.
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06-30-2005, 12:21 PM
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
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Originally Posted by TheATLien
Araujo = Stiff.
VC trade = not enough. As long as Babcock is here, those picks wont do ****.
Villanueva = Bust. Has bad attitude and not many skills.
Graham = Great defender, but can't shoot or dribble.
Roko = Probably will never play in USA.
How can you defend the man who is destroying your team? I don't get it. I want the Raptors to do good, but that is never going to happen with moves like the ones I listed above.
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Well if you put it that way...
Childress: Bust
Smith: good shot blocker, crappy everything else
Marv Williams: second coming of Darius Miles (as *somebody* said so earlier this year)
Stoudamire: ball hog
Hawks: no point guard, no center, no more than 13 wins again
Raptors had a good draft, getting 3 top-20 prospects without trading up or down.
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06-30-2005, 12:23 PM
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Legend
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
LOL. Can't defend your team, so you bash mine. How thoughtful.
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06-30-2005, 12:23 PM
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6th Man
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
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Originally Posted by TheATLien
Araujo = Stiff.
VC trade = not enough. As long as Babcock is here, those picks wont do ****.
Villanueva = Bust. Has bad attitude and not many skills.
Graham = Great defender, but can't shoot or dribble.
Roko = Probably will never play in USA.
How can you defend the man who is destroying your team? I don't get it. I want the Raptors to do good, but that is never going to happen with moves like the ones I listed above.
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Araujo is "probably" a stiff ...
We didn't get much for Vince, but what was Babs to do ? The guy wasn't even trying anymore ....
Villanueva might become a bust, but saying he doesn't have skills is completely foolish ... he was the most skill big man after Bogut no doubt about that ... there is some question about attitude though.
Graham average was 17.7 pts last year in the NCAA ... the guy can score ....
Mark my words, Roko will be in TO this fall ... he loves to ball and want to do it in the best league in the world ...
Before writing ... start by thinking
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06-30-2005, 12:24 PM
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Legend
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
Jesus, stop drinking the kool aid. Grow some balls, and realize your team ****ed up.
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06-30-2005, 12:25 PM
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6th Man
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
I'm not saying we are out of the woods ...
But Babs hasn't proven he's a complete moron yet ... Araujo wasn't his scouting anyways ...
If you judge him ... judge him on this year draft ... and we can't until at least christmas
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06-30-2005, 12:32 PM
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Re: Babcock Haters forgot about the Pheonix suns
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Bosh and Villanueva don't have the strength, power, or aggression Amare has. Hoffa has the same strength, but he has about one half the athleticism. Shawn Marion is a freak of nature. He's always averaged around 9 rpg, even at the SF position. He has one of the quickest jumps in the NBA and one of the quickest second jumps in the NBA. He's also a damn good defender. It's hard to duplicate what they have at the 4 and the 5.
Who is going chuck 3s for the Raptors? MoPete and Alston? And? Phoenix, 1 to 4, could drain a 3. And when McCarty played some 5, he too could drain the 3.
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Yes but the Suns had the best record in the league. No one here expects the Raptors to come even close to that. charlz was simply showing that the Raptors wouldn't be the only team that could make it work. And just so you know, the Raptors were the 2nd best three point shooting team last season, right behind the Suns.
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06-30-2005, 12:36 PM
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