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**Crossword** · 07-21-2005, 10:02 PM

We can't let Bonner go... we definitely need him. He's young, stretches the defense, and gives us a lot of versitility.

JL2002 · 07-21-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Budweiser_Boy

We can't let Bonner go... we definitely need him. He's young, stretches the defense, and gives us a lot of versitility.

otherwise, he don't really play good defense, can't rebound (tho his highlights comes from a few good ORbd), and couldn't really finish around the basket if there's a man on him. Sometimes doesn't have that confidence in jacking up a open shot while a player is running at him....

**kamego** · 07-21-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknownone

He was a highly prized recruit @ DePaul under Pat Kennedy (who had left Florida State to head up to Chicago and resurrect a moribund Blue Demons program that had fared poorly in the wake of legendary coach Ray Myer's son Joey in the head role) and a teammate of Quentin Richardson, who emerged from as one of the most acclaimed from the Chicago high school ranks...

That said, his career is what you've described - another mediocre player - he was maddeningly inconsistent and really displayed little or no passion for winnin'; he reminds me of Vince in that respect: he enjoys what basketball affords him, but isn't committed wholesale to the game as a profession or towards winnin' a championship...

I wouldn't think that Babcock and company are interested in pickin' up someone of his questionable character and habits...

Hunter is a great defensive center in the terms of shot blocking. Meaning he is a good fit in a zone defense. Just don't expect him to score a lot. Expect him to earn more money then Bonner next season.

MentalPowerHouse · 07-22-2005, 06:15 AM

I very much expect CV to replace Bonners production. If CV only averaged the 7/3.5 of Bonner I would be disappointed. No one is saying Bonner sucks and that he brings nothing, he is a nice a bench player but that is all he is.

Also have to expect Bosh's production to increase as well.

Joey Graham as a backup forward will also eat some of Bonner/Marshalls minutes and production. In any case he is not needed for the future of our team. Signing him to a 2-3 million dollar a year deal only cuts our future capspace which is priority number 1 behind our young players.

Build our core through the draft with Bosh, CV, Araujo, Joey + whoever we pick next year... and reinforce that through free agency when the time comes.

charlz · 07-22-2005, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MentalPowerHouse

I very much expect CV to replace Bonners production. If CV only averaged the 7/3.5 of Bonner I would be disappointed. No one is saying Bonner sucks and that he brings nothing, he is a nice a bench player but that is all he is.

But who Replaces Donny's production - that was supposed to be Bonners Role. Because they both bring the exact same amount of range/rebounding/ and defense to the table.

Also I expect bonners production to drop off next year - last year he was playing for his life <b>DID NOT WANT TO GO BACK TO EUROPE</b> in a big way. I think he'll have a hard time being as motivated once he has a multi-year contract under his belt.

MentalPowerHouse · 07-24-2005, 08:27 AM

Bosh + CV easily fill all PF production. Graham fills backup SF production. Araujo + some left over Bosh and CV fills Center production.

Junkyard Dog13 · 07-24-2005, 09:53 AM

CV3 will likely be playing every thing from the 5-3 mostly 5 & 4, bulk of his minutes will be giving CB4 breathers, we need Bonner back to partially replace yell's production, Sow is a better defender than Bonner but is not threat to shoot, only a low post player.

Sign Bonner now re-worked from myside to a 3 year 5.725 mill deal with a 1.5 mill bonus

year 1
bonus
375,000
salery
425,000
= 800,000

year 2
bonus 375,000
salery 800,000
=1,175,000

year 3
bonus 375,000
salery 1,200,000
=1,575,000

year 4
bonus 375,000
salery 1,800,000
=2,175,000

___________
5,725,000

from our side cap friendly fear someone will really offer him 4 years 10 mill

3 yr 5.7 1.5 bonus is very fair for a medicore player but we all know the new age economics of the game have guys like Bonner making way more.

SkywalkerAC · 07-24-2005, 12:33 PM

We definitely don't need Bonner back but it sure would be nice. To finally get a good player with such character in the second round only to lose him after his rookie year wouldn't feel so good. But again, he's a depth role player and isn't vital to our success next year or ever.

Bronx · 07-24-2005, 07:00 PM

I dont know why everyone is so high on Matt Bonner. Yea he can shoot the ball, but the only way he can shoot is if hes wide open. He cant mix it up downlow, or has the atheletic ability to create his own shot. I say hes Junk on wheels, and we shouldnt resign him or Sow. Instead use the MLE on a quality vet C or a good back up bigmen.

GuelphRaptorsFan · 07-25-2005, 07:48 AM

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I dont know why everyone is so high on Matt Bonner. Yea he can shoot the ball, but the only way he can shoot is if hes wide open. He cant mix it up downlow, or has the atheletic ability to create his own shot. I say hes Junk on wheels, and we shouldnt resign him or Sow. Instead use the MLE on a quality vet C or a good back up bigmen.

Leaving all the intangibles aside, lets pretend for a moment that he is a 6'10" version of Steve Kerr (terrific spot up shooter, very little else). I don't agree with that assessment, but lets pretend. I still take that guy on my bench, in a heartbeat. 53% from the field, 42% from three point range? Absolutely.

SkywalkerAC · 07-25-2005, 02:52 PM

I certainly haven't heard too many teams making offers for him. I would think this is because they know if unless they "overspend" (over 2.5 mill a season or something) it's going to get matched. I'd probably put money on him staying. Who, that even has a roster spot for him, has any kind of money to give him? Other than us of course.

Ras · 07-25-2005, 03:13 PM

I agree with Budweiser_Boy, Bonner is an important piece to have off of the bench. He provides a good spark and can stretch the defense.

**speedythief** · 07-25-2005, 05:34 PM

So far we've heard that his agent hasn't talked to other teams, and no rumours have been popping up. I think we might be looking at everyone keeping their traps shut until Thursday when we can announce his re-signing.

Everyone thought we might lose Mo last summer. Same rhetoric about "wanting to make the right choices financially" from us and stuff about "value" and "respect" from the agent. We played it cool and kept him in the end. Let's see if the same thing happens here.

Primetime23 · 07-25-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Budweiser_Boy

We can't let Bonner go... we definitely need him. He's young, stretches the defense, and gives us a lot of versitility.

what? how does he give us versatility he is as much of a one dimesnsional player as there is in the league, he's Donyell with less athleticism he parks out inside the 3 point lines and fires away

given his mid range game is money in the bank, he looks akward driving to the hole and his drives usually result in a wild circus shot, very rarely ever goes up strong

2 million is the most i would offer him if i was babs maybe a little more because of the influence hes had on the team and the community but not too much more than that

MentalPowerHouse · 07-26-2005, 06:11 AM

The news is that Bonner is asking 15 mil over 5 years... if we hadn't drafted CV I might have been ok with it but we can't have Bonner making that money as a back up PF when we need those minutes for CV.

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