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Old 12-14-2005, 09:06 AM   #136 (permalink)
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The NBA is composed of just 2 Rounds. Yeah everybody is selected in the 1st round in the NBA, but I'm talking about value, not selection of players.

In the NFL 1st Round picks are incredibly more valuable than in the NBA. Try to package two first rounders in the NBA for the #1 overall and then try to do it in the NFL and see how much futher along you get.

Of course the NFL has 7 rounds not to mention the supplemental draft and all the undrafted stars, but from a GM standpoint 1st Rounder hold more weight in the NFL than in the NBA, and if you doubt that than ??? Or how else can you explain teams tossing in 1st Round picks in the NBA like nothing, but the picks are much guarded in the NFL.

What is this amateur hour on the Raptors page? Or do you guys just watch too much CFL not to know the importance of America's real past time?
How many NFL players drafted in the first round make the final rosters in their first year?
How many superstars come out of the first round of the NFL draft versus the NBA?
Since you've demostrated zero ability to do any research yourself, I'll help you out, that is if you don't mind getting help from an 'amateur', lol.

Take a look here:

Now look here:

I can explain NFL GM's guarding their #1 picks bu saying football teams have larger rosters then basketball teams, thus a greater need for a larger influx of players (thus all the drafts).
Also the average career length is shorter in the NFL then in the NBA. Add to that salary cap issues and such and you have a pretty clear idea.

How many first round NFL picks are still in the league after their rookie contracts compared to the NBA? yeah, I thought so, gotcha sucker!
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:41 AM   #137 (permalink)
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shookem How many NFL players drafted in the first round make the final rosters in their first year?
How many superstars come out of the first round of the NFL draft versus the NBA?
Since you've demostrated zero ability to do any research yourself, I'll help you out
Again you miss my point. I'm not talking about quality of players or any of that. I'm talking from a GM standpoint. Again try to take two NBA first round picks and deal up in the draft versus doing that same thing in the NFL. That's all I'm saying. It doesn't matter about rounds 2-7 in the NFL. Only having 2 rounds in the NBA makes draft picks very important and basically all the stars come out of the 1st Round yeah, I already agreed with that and know that. But the value is higher in the NFL on 1st Rounder than in the NBA (no matter how the player selected turns out.)


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How many first round NFL picks are still in the league after their rookie contracts compared to the NBA? yeah, I thought so, gotcha sucker!
Got what? You completely missed my point.

But really what is this the NFL/NBA forum? We'd better get back to the subject at hand and that's the Nuggets losing, which they again failed to do last night!

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Melo sets new Career High with 42 last night!

Seattle and Minnesota both lose, Nuggets gain ground on T-Wolves!
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:43 AM   #138 (permalink)
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Early first round picks are more valuable in the NBA, late first round picks are more valuable in the NFL. Late 1sts in the NFL usually start right away, and often become stars. Late 1sts in the NBA are roleplayers or busts the 90% of the time.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:19 PM   #139 (permalink)
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Again you miss my point. I'm not talking about quality of players or any of that. I'm talking from a GM standpoint. Again try to take two NBA first round picks and deal up in the draft versus doing that same thing in the NFL. That's all I'm saying. It doesn't matter about rounds 2-7 in the NFL. Only having 2 rounds in the NBA makes draft picks very important and basically all the stars come out of the 1st Round yeah, I already agreed with that and know that. But the value is higher in the NFL on 1st Rounder than in the NBA (no matter how the player selected turns out.)

Do up a poll if you want....."What picks are more valuable? The first round of the NBA or the first round of the NFL"

we see what people think.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:02 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Melo's really picking it up.

Twolves lose at the buzzer.

Kenyon still getting up for some ferocious dunks.

Did Boykins' iron man run end?

Who's up next for the Nugz?
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Ooh, Melo has to visit an angry Lebron tomorrow. Somehow I don't think he'll be coming out on top in this one.
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Ooh, Melo has to visit an angry Lebron tomorrow. Somehow I don't think he'll be coming out on top in this one.
Hopefully it'll be a great game and Denver can keep the Cavs cold.

Come post on Nuggets board during the game...

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Old 12-14-2005, 06:43 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Come post on Nuggets board during the game...

http://www.basketballboards.net/foru...d.php?t=224591
I'm sure he's eager to do that after reading your sig, LOL.
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Do up a poll if you want....."What picks are more valuable? The first round of the NBA or the first round of the NFL"

we see what people think.
I'm guessing that on a b-ball site it'll be b-ball. Most will argue the amount of rounds and that the NFL has more.

But I'm only talking about from a GM standpoint. I'll put it in the General forum and we'll see the landslide in your favor...
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I'm sure he's eager to do that after reading your sig, LOL.
Gotta keep the love going man! He's spewing at the mouth for my team to get hurt and have a bad season! Hahaha
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rooting for injuries is classless in every sense of the word.
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We don't really root for injuries, we're just happy when they happen.
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Lovely thread, I could say your classless or even mean. But why go there. You know that and its obvious. Rooting for players to get injured. I can definitely see benefits from injury. But I dont get my jollies off by a guy going down. Even Tim Duncan last year before when I knew the Spurs were playing the nuggets in round one. I think you guys got "turned on" by the fact that Nene went down. Thats lame.

So I suppose pathetic would be the word of choice. You notice in the Nugget Room, we tend to worry about our situation. How can our team play better and build around Melo, and how can we acquire a shooting guard etc. Not how can minnesota do bad so we can clinch the division. We arent making a thread about Minnesota and hoping Garnett will go down. We already know that this is Melo's team, and he will get us into the playoffs. Its going to happen people, so you might as well deal with it.

Comparing Bosh to Melo is laughable. Melo was on a team full of nobodies. Guys like Camby had been injured the whole year before, and our best player signed as a free agent with the orlando magic. Everyone picked guys like Lebron James to lead their team to the playoffs. The nuggets were supposed to suck. Melo being the winner that he is wouldnt let that happen. He had clutch performances down the stretch (example against portland) to carry the nuggets into the playoffs. You put Melo with Charlie, and Mo Pete, Rose, Mike James etc etc, and you can damn sure bet they make the eastern conference playoffs.

You can analyze what i say, dissect it, even get pissed off about it, but you cant change it. What has Lebron or Bosh been able to do? Carmelo has exceeded expections with his ability to get his team into the playoffs from year one.

editing over a moderator is an automatic suspension. i'll let you skate because you didn't rehash what was edited in the first place. please do not edit over a moderator again. speedy.
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