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**Timmons** · 12-09-2005, 08:48 PM

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SkywalkerAC That's cool. I wouldn't like seeing teams of other fans hoping that one of our guys gets injured but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I'm sorry but I just don't understand this at all. I never root for anyone to get injured. That is a very odd way to think. I enjoy the game of basketball and pretty much every team, I would never wish injuries on anyone.

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If Camby gets injured, something we as Raptors fans have experience with, the chances of us getting an impact player with that pick goes up enormously. I like seeing him playing at such a high level but and it would be a shame if he got seriously injured but you're damn right I want the guy to get worn down as the season progresses.

Yeah I understand how the Nuggets poor play could help the Raptors. I just don't like the way this particular thread is going about it...wishing guys to get hurt and applauding the fact that a dynamic player like Kenyon Martin, and not to mention a good man and father, might be out for 12-16 months if he faces serious knee surgury. That's total bush league.

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I'm sorry if you don't like a different team getting your draft pick; I'd be extremely frustrated were the roles reversed.

I could care less about the draft pick. Denver traded that pick away to get Kenyon and it's long gone. Plus the fact that the pick is not going to be a lottery pick makes it that much more worthless. In addition the Nuggets best player is only 21 years-old so he's basically a rookie every year anyway. I'd trade that draft pick 10 times out of 10 for a crack at the playoffs anyway. Plus with Kleiza and Hodge on board Denver is pretty well set with youth. So developing a middle of the pack rookie next season is not a pressing issue in Denver.

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The upcoming draft is hugely important for our franchise and the Denver pick is a big part of that. They came into the season as the favourites for the division title and many figured them to win over 50 games. You'll have to forgive us if we get excited about the possibility of getting a lottery pick here, it is basically half of our return on Vince Carter after all. As for its worth, wouldn't you love to have it back?

The upcoming draft is not as important for the Raptors as you may think. With Chris Bosh and Chuck V. being so young, developing those two players is the most important aspect the Raptors face. Yes, getting quality guys to compliment those two is vastly important, but not totally dependant on Denver's season imo.
The possibility of Toronto turning Denver's pick into a lotto pick is realistic with an injury to Camby and the continued absence of Martin, but Denver may be on the verge of making a trade after the 15th for a shooter and Melo is looking better each night.

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Nugz get the Heat again tonight and god I hope they lose.

Well sorry the Nuggets disappointed tonight. Melo came within 1-point of surpassing his career high with 40 points tonight (41 is his high). Denver pulls out a nail-biter with a 100-92 win on the road!

Nuggets move to 11-9

Next up: Orlando tomorrow late afternoon in Denver...

SkywalkerAC · 12-10-2005, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobin 73 EIRE

I'm sorry but I just don't understand this at all. I never root for anyone to get injured. That is a very odd way to think. I enjoy the game of basketball and pretty much every team, I would never wish injuries on anyone.

Yeah I understand how the Nuggets poor play could help the Raptors. I just don't like the way this particular thread is going about it...wishing guys to get hurt and applauding the fact that a dynamic player like Kenyon Martin, and not to mention a good man and father, might be out for 12-16 months if he faces serious knee surgury. That's total bush league.

I could care less about the draft pick. Denver traded that pick away to get Kenyon and it's long gone. Plus the fact that the pick is not going to be a lottery pick makes it that much more worthless. In addition the Nuggets best player is only 21 years-old so he's basically a rookie every year anyway. I'd trade that draft pick 10 times out of 10 for a crack at the playoffs anyway. Plus with Kleiza and Hodge on board Denver is pretty well set with youth. So developing a middle of the pack rookie next season is not a pressing issue in Denver.

The upcoming draft is not as important for the Raptors as you may think. With Chris Bosh and Chuck V. being so young, developing those two players is the most important aspect the Raptors face. Yes, getting quality guys to compliment those two is vastly important, but not totally dependant on Denver's season imo.
The possibility of Toronto turning Denver's pick into a lotto pick is realistic with an injury to Camby and the continued absence of Martin, but Denver may be on the verge of making a trade after the 15th for a shooter and Melo is looking better each night.

Well sorry the Nuggets disappointed tonight. Melo came within 1-point of surpassing his career high with 40 points tonight (41 is his high). Denver pulls out a nail-biter with a 100-92 win on the road!

Nuggets move to 11-9

Next up: Orlando tomorrow late afternoon in Denver...

Yeah. I know it doesn't look good-- we aren't pure evil necessarily but we are greedy little humans. Injuries and man-games lost to injuries are part of the NBA game: they happen night in and night out. Hoping that someone gets injured is mean-spirited but the mean-spirit is often alive and well when it comes to sports fandom. I'm not really a hater- I don't really hate players or teams- but I do love my team, the Raptors, and am not ashamed of hoping that another team might suffer so that we might prosper.

Are we despicable? Sure, maybe we are a little at times. Are we doing anything wrong by putting our cruel fantasies into writing? Of course not.

Kudos on the win last night. The Wade/Melo battle must have been fun to watch and your boy came out on top.

Good luck against Orlando. Camby's going to have his hands full with Howard.

SkywalkerAC · 12-10-2005, 06:22 AM

And thankfully the Sonics and Lakers kept pace.

**Timmons** · 12-10-2005, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SkywalkerAC

Are we despicable? Sure, maybe we are a little at times. Are we doing anything wrong by putting our cruel fantasies into writing? Of course not.

Kudos on the win last night. The Wade/Melo battle must have been fun to watch and your boy came out on top.

Good luck against Orlando. Camby's going to have his hands full with Howard.

I like getting my blood boiled by this thread! I just hope the Nuggets don't disappoint!

NugzFan · 12-10-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SkywalkerAC

And thankfully the Sonics and Lakers kept pace.

they are not the teams we have to worry about.

butr · 12-10-2005, 03:58 PM

Oh please keep telling us how to build this team.

Hopefully ORL can actually win a game tonight.

**Timmons** · 12-10-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blowuptheraptors

Oh please keep telling us how to build this team.

Hopefully ORL can actually win a game tonight.

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SkywalkerAC · 12-10-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NugzFan

they are not the teams we have to worry about.

But we're hoping they are.

SkywalkerAC · 12-10-2005, 06:49 PM

Orlando up by 10 with 3:30 left in the 3rd.

SkywalkerAC · 12-10-2005, 07:44 PM

Orlando wins by 11. Bobcats up next for the Nugz.

master8492 · 12-10-2005, 09:06 PM

Wow Orlando beating the Nuggets! nice win

butr · 12-10-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobin 73 EIRE

The upcoming draft is not as important for the Raptors as you may think. With Chris Bosh and Chuck V. being so young, developing those two players is the most important aspect the Raptors face. Yes, getting quality guys to compliment those two is vastly important, but not totally dependant on Denver's season imo.

Every asset is important.

Ballyhoo · 12-10-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobin 73 EIRE

The upcoming draft is not as important for the Raptors as you may think.

A top 3 pick is incredibly important, even in a weak draft year.

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