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Old 10-31-2005, 03:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Nuggets Watch

It all begins tomorrow night for the NBA's exciting new season and one team that Raptors fans will following closely is the Denver Nuggets. I don't have to explain why. This is the thread to discuss how they are playing, if they're going to win their division, how Bosh is better than Melo, whatever.

Checking out the opening schedule I love what I'm seeing. Denver @! San Antonio to open the season, followed up by the revamped Lakers the very next night at home. Not an easy start for the Nuggets. I see them losing both.

I don't see them as an elite team but they may not have to be to win their division. A lot depends on KG, Carmelo, and Ray Allen (sans Mr Sonic). KG is out with a sprained ankle unfortunately but Camby isn't in perfect health either.

I kinda like the Nuggs- pretty fun to watch and all that- but damn I want to see them lose this season.

Down with Denver! UP with our pick!
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Old 10-31-2005, 03:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i hope they loose to the lakers! so we can shake hands there
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If Babcock had any choice when it came to New Jersey's bevy of 06 firsts, he'd better hope that the Denver one winds up being the best of them. Otherwise a couple of months from now the writers are going to feel compelled to drag the Carter trade out again for another spitting contest.

I like that Denver hasn't really found a shooting guard. It was essentially their only task this summer. Hodge and Johnson are both decent but neither is really suited to the off-guard spot. Whether Melo can play extended minutes at the two (he spent very, very little time there last season, approx. 1/64th of his PT) I'm not sure.

Hopefully Lenard won't have a good season and they'll be stuck for backcourt shooting again.
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If Babcock had any choice when it came to New Jersey's bevy of 06 firsts, he'd better hope that the Denver one winds up being the best of them. Otherwise a couple of months from now the writers are going to feel compelled to drag the Carter trade out again for another spitting contest.

I like that Denver hasn't really found a shooting guard. It was essentially their only task this summer. Hodge and Johnson are both decent but neither is really suited to the off-guard spot. Whether Melo can play extended minutes at the two (he spent very, very little time there last season, approx. 1/64th of his PT) I'm not sure.

Hopefully Lenard won't have a good season and they'll be stuck for backcourt shooting again.
With Lenard as the starting shooting guard and Melo at the 3 you really have to question their perimeter defense.

Kenyon coming off knee surgery and Camby with a bad hoof.

I just wish KG wasn't coming in with a sprained ankle, as the new look Twolves could be much improved. Mcmillan staying in Seattle would have been nice too.

It's really all on Melo, if he can start playing like a real star, Nuggets are going to be damn good. If not, they could be a playoff bubble team.
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I know this is/was a rumour, but imagine if pierce had of came to Denver for Nene and Miller? That would sure have solidified their 2 position, and put them into the playoffs. They would have a had a weaker frontcourt, but their firepower would be tough to match. I see them in the playoffs anyways, anywhere from 3-6 in the conference is my guess.
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Old 10-31-2005, 06:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I know this is/was a rumour, but imagine if pierce had of came to Denver for Nene and Miller? That would sure have solidified their 2 position, and put them into the playoffs.
They'll still make the playoffs without a Pierce manning the 2.

Pretty much, the Nuggs success is going to be determined by both Melo and Camby. Melo's shown some improvement this preseason, so the signs are pointing toward a good season. Camby should prove a big factor in their play this season. If he fires for a good part of the season, they should be as good as gold.

We're leaning on nothing but a slim thread of hope they crash substantially from where many a punter has them projected to be this season.
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They'll still make the playoffs without a Pierce manning the 2.

Pretty much, the Nuggs success is going to be determined by both Melo and Camby. Melo's shown some improvement this preseason, so the signs are pointing toward a good season. Camby should prove a big factor in their play this season. If he fires for a good part of the season, they should be as good as gold.

We're leaning on nothing but a slim thread of hope they crash substantially from where many a punter has them projected to be this season.
Agreed. If Carmelo has an All-Star caliber season, Lenard has a decent year and Camby stays healthy (knock on wood Denver fans), the Nugz could easily win 55+ games. If Carmelo has the same type of season of last year and any of KMart, Camby, or Lenard go down with a major injury, they're looking at a 7-10 seed.
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Agreed. If Carmelo has an All-Star caliber season, Lenard has a decent year and Camby stays healthy (knock on wood Denver fans), the Nugz could easily win 55+ games. If Carmelo has the same type of season of last year and any of KMart, Camby, or Lenard go down with a major injury, they're looking at a 7-10 seed.
What Melo are you talking about?

If it's the first half version, then sure I agree at your seeding.

But if it's the second half version who had a fire litten under his *** by Karl, then the Nuggets will be very good.
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if they do make the playoffs would you rather keep it or trade it?
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this'll also be one of my most important things to track this year as a fan. one eye on the raps, one on the nuggets. part of the reason would have to be my relatively weak faith in the upcoming draft class, but most of it is rooted in our heavy reliance on this pick overall. as speedy mentioned, carter critics abound, and this could provide them with their second wind (as if they need one).

what's more, i don't think our team can develop without somewhat of a timetable... yet. i'm sure babcock's hoping to become the next generation of the san antonio spurs, with valuable pieces coming aboard year in and year out, but we need to reach that highly competitive stage first, to allow our rooks to join our club without much pressure or attention. at the moment, every young'in we have is playing under their own respective microscope (imo). i think the denver pick is crucial in solidifying our core with quality depth early, thus enabling our team to progress sooner rather than later, and allowing babcock's vision to be realized and not forever criticized.

i think the pick we owe "cleveland" (then charlotte, then the rest of the league) is also an important issue here. we'll be somewhat hamstrung past the next off-season if we grab denver's first in '06 (which we probably will) as well as our own. we'll revert to being unable to move another first-rounder in trade, etc., although that's admittedly not our biggest concern at the moment. still, it's an important note (imo).

simply put, i'll probably be watching more denver games than toronto games this season. i just don't want to end up with 25 or 28 or whatever. i think carmelo is an excellent talent, i have far greater doubts in them missing the playoffs than in us making the playoffs, but we/they haven't played a game yet. so there's always hope.

and they also have marcus. so there's even more hope there.

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What Melo are you talking about?

If it's the first half version, then sure I agree at your seeding.

But if it's the second half version who had a fire litten under his *** by Karl, then the Nuggets will be very good.
First half, but he'll need to average more than 20/5/3 on the year for them to be very good.
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uhhh...because Raptor fans should know we get their draft pick.
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