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Old 11-14-2005, 09:19 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

the hawks have joe johnson, one of the best guards in the east.
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:42 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

I think the big question is will Toronto be able to hold on to Bosh when he is able to become a free agent, or will he be so tired of losing that he will look to move to another team, but one thing I can say is a lot of people didn't like the pick of Villanueva but he is going to be a good player, and that was a great trade James for Alston, Alston is not as great a player as he thinks he is.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:39 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

too early to tell whether or not we are the worst team in the L, but as mentioned b4, we're pretty close to it and we're not gonna get any better if we dont start playing as a team
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

yo, charlie v did well the other night 26+12 and he had 7 offensive boards

way to go hairless one !
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

we dont have a good C or a defensive SG.
which is why we suck so bad.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:57 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

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we dont have a good C or a defensive SG.which is why we suck so bad.
What about MoPete?
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

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The Hornets are worse. PJ Brown is close to retirement and they have nothing to replace him with. Two decent young guards is all they really have. Mason likely won't re-sign with them. And any cap space they have will not attract top talent. Their owner has a horrible rep in the league and the team could be moving again. Not a stable franchise.

The Hawks are worse. All their young talent is on the wings. Nothing at PG or C. Paid waaaaay too much for JoeJohnson. Not a club that anyone wants to sign with. No fan support.

Portland is worse. Any team that is relying on Darius Miles for leadership and scoring is worse. All their talent has emotional/maturity issues - Zack, Telfair, Miles. If they lose Pryz as a FA they will get even worse. They could go either way depending on their young players. I don't see a good veteran wanting to come in and work with those young players - too much attitude.

But yes, Toronto is very bad. Worst defensive team in the league, or close to it. But we do have some balance. Talent at PG in Calderon and Ukic. Talent on the wings with Joey, Charlie, and MoP. Talent on the front line with Bosh, Slokar, Bonner and Hoff (maybe). Not a big attraction to FA's but if the team improves over the next two seasons with our core the right FA could see himself as the missing piece to a playoff contender. Especially a defensive C with a low post game. All our guys are good teammates and not problem children. More attractive to a vet coming in. We just need some stability at GM and Coach to attract a good FA.

i think FAs would sign with these teams you mentioned than Raps, unless the next GM pull a Grunwald, ie. overpay average players to long term deals.

Whether we like it or not, most players don't find T.O as the place to be. Especially with this mess we are currently in, I just wish them good luck.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

I think we are. By record and talent I think we're on par with New Orleans, Portland and Atlanta. But NO and PDX have won and Atlanta is fighting every game. I think if you include chemistry as a factor we're right there with New York too. But as of today, saying we're the worst team in the NBA is a fair assessment of the situation IMO.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:35 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

I don't think were the worst team, but we are one of the worst teams.
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Old 11-15-2005, 01:22 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Are we truthfully the worst team in the L?

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Imo, we're the 2nd worst behind Atlanta.
Well, that will be the battle of the titans when Atlanta and Toronto face off, the league is waiting!!!

It's really early in the season and all indications (0-6) are pointing to being the worst team in the league, but I'd give it to about 20 games in before we start making those assessments

I thought we'd be 5-6th worst in the league, so I'd be surprised by year end if we are last in the league
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