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charlz · 12-21-2005, 12:20 AM

LaMarcus Aldridge

There is another 20 yr old 6'11 stud hailing from Dallas texas besides Chris Bosh.

This former McDonalds All American is working toward being a 20/10 player as an NCAA sophomore
http://www.sportsline.com/collegebas...yerpage/525030
http://www.texassports.com/index.php...7&member_id=48

Current Draft Rank(s)
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#3 NBADRAFT.NET http://nbadraft.net/
#1 Draft express http://draftexpress.com/mock.php?y=2006 "worse case scenario Channing Frye"
#4 Hoops hype http://hoopshype.com/draft.htm

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as a sophomore, averaged 23 points and 13 boards per game in two head-to-head matchups with then-senior Chris Bosh of Dallas Lincoln (now with the NBA’s Toronto Raptors) … National Honor Society member … listed in Who’s Who Among American High School Students.

It would be interesting to see how his season pans out and how LaMarcus pans out in the NCAA tourney with the texas long horns - but if he continues to impress and is on the board when the Raptors Draft I think it would be hard for them to pass on him and consumated a deal for with either Bosh or Villy.

Trading bosh would mean 2 more years of non-max-contract-cap-space and some immediate help in a trade & there could possibly be little drop off with alderage stepping in. What could you get for Bosh -
cap space(rose alvin williams), Marion/or Pierce and 2 first round draft picks?
Bosh + Rose + alvin Willaims
Marion + Boris Diaw + furture 1st and 2nd + not having to worry about bosh leaving for nothing or less if he went public with his demands.

However Bosh and Alderage could be the bash brothers from big "d" - Raps would have to trade Villy - otherwise their 3 best players would be natural power forwards. The downside with Lamarcus is his durabilty. Sat out most of last season with hip unjury.

But since this team is a couple of years away from winning they have to make plan "B" for trading Bosh if he is getting restless after 4-5 years of terrible decisions in Toronto.

All that having been said I doubt that the Raps will draft Lamarcus or Trade Bosh.... but time will tell.

shookem · 12-21-2005, 06:39 AM

yeah I think the first, second and third options are to keep Bosh and trade the pick if need be.

Alridge looks good, but we know Chris is, so unless he is threatining to leave, I'd keep Bosh.

If Alridge is the first overall and we have the first overall, then maybe we trade down, get some added value and still get another young blue chip prospect. Also it may be possible to play him, Bosh and Villy on the court at the same time.

Also if Bosh leaves I really think you risk alienating a lot of fans, no matter who you bring back.

**madman** · 12-21-2005, 07:44 AM

why would we let bosh go? we should do everything in our power to keep him here

ATLien · 12-21-2005, 08:00 AM

He's ours.

shookem · 12-21-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheATLien

He's ours.

That would make way more sense.

this year Hotlanta takes the 4/5 bigman and we take the wingman! for both teams, I hope so.

billfindlay10 · 12-21-2005, 08:08 AM

We know that in Bosh we have a young stud who has proven that he can play in the NBA. In the two games I have watched Aldridge in this year he has been average at best. He has the size to play in the league, but is not even close to being as versatile as Bosh is. He has a nice turn-around jumper in the post, but other than that looks limited. Bosh can shoot the face up out to 20 feet, has started to develope a better jump hook, can beat his man off of the dribble, and has an improving right hand.

To me this is a no brainer...Bosh gets signed!

With guys like Gay and Morrison (my pick) Aldridge would only be on my radar with the Denver pick...and even then I would look to move him.

**ballocks** · 12-21-2005, 08:38 AM

i'd focus my efforts on building around bosh, not using bosh to re-start unnecessarily. the concern about acquiring a mirror talent for cb4 (which is not true; guys, have you even seen aldridge yet? you're going to say he's like chris because he's from texas?) for the sole reason of saving 3 rookie contract years is awful, it makes me sick to my stomach for so many reasons. you can't reproduce chris bosh- this is the real world.

however, even if we could, i think the first point is to not get ahead of ourselves. if we somehow end up with the worst record in the league (that's an enormous "if" to begin with), we'd still have only a 25% chance to score the first pick. in other words, no matter WHAT (pre-lottery), we're highly unlikely to receive the top pick in this draft.

now, the second point makes the gigantic assumption that we do indeed win the lottery (almost don't want to talk about this right now): as stated above, if lamarcus is the man, you take him. people want to believe that two at a "position" is too much, but that's bollocks. this sport is not about positions. i'd happen to think that a frontline with villanueva, bosh and another big would have the potential to dominate, regardless of how they're to be drawn up on the clipboard. on top of all that, bosh has already shown a fantastic mid-range game, v is a capable three point shooter, they're both competent off the dribble- so the two we have "in the way" have already proven themselves as versatile basketball players.

finally, we've been (imo) making decisions with the 06 draft in mind for a while now: to get a great pick and re-structure the plan by moving the axis entirely (bosh) would be a non-starter for me. this is what we've been building for. we've wanted a top pick in the 06 draft to put around chris bosh. sure, you "make any trade that'll improve your team", but i can't imagine any trade that would work in parallel with the plan we've been running for 12 months. what are the chances that rob babcock can imagine it, but not only that, but that he could also consummate said transaction? remote, if not absolute zero (imo).

let's be patient. i've seen no reason at all to even consider the alternatives yet. this thing's going according to schedule, i think, and i don't even want to stir the pot with more torontonian tabloid controversy. i don't know why we continue to punish ourselves; let's be honest, the chance that this scenario would eventually get played out is almost as slim as angelina leaving brad, deciding to come to toronto to live in the apartment below mine, losing all her utilities but refusing to leave the city, coming up to spend her time in my pad (out of convenience) and wanting to stay overnight every night, feeling uncomfortable without my ___ ____ ___ - the chance is almost literally that slim.

i think we should relax and be patient. i don't know why we can't stop bracing for armaggedon. this isn't oz.

peace

MonsterBosh · 12-21-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ballocks

i'd focus my efforts on building around bosh, not using bosh to re-start unnecessarily. the concern about acquiring a mirror talent for cb4 (which is not true; guys, have you even seen aldridge yet?

peace

Of course you're right about building around Bosh, but have you considered the Raptor's need for a big body post up center type of player? The Raptors had hopes for Sow and Araujo, but we see that one is not smart enough to play team basketball and the other is too slow to play NBA basketball.

Also the Raptors need a good backup PF for Bosh and that appears to be Charlie V ... who will also displace Bonner, A-Will or E-Will. Another reason is that Bosh will eventually get injured with his wild and spectacular drives to the basket and when that happens the team cannot collapse ... as it would if it happened this season.

When people talk about trading Bosh, that is only "thinking outside the box" .... to brainstorm that possibility. Nothing wrong with that, because Raptor management is undoubtedly considering that too. Perhaps Bosh could be traded for a good center and the front line could consist of Villaneuva, Aldrige and an NBA quality center.

Who do you think Raptors could get for Bosh?

(btw ballocks .... "Capitals" are your Friends ... and would help readers of your fine posts understand them better ... unless the Shift keys on your keyboard don't function.)

tbp82 · 12-21-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by billfindlay10

We know that in Bosh we have a young stud who has proven that he can play in the NBA. In the two games I have watched Aldridge in this year he has been average at best. He has the size to play in the league, but is not even close to being as versatile as Bosh is. He has a nice turn-around jumper in the post, but other than that looks limited. Bosh can shoot the face up out to 20 feet, has started to develope a better jump hook, can beat his man off of the dribble, and has an improving right hand.

To me this is a no brainer...Bosh gets signed!

With guys like Gay and Morrison (my pick) Aldridge would only be on my radar with the Denver pick...and even then I would look to move him.

Morrison your pick. Why draft Morrison #1 or #2 when you will *probably* be able to get him much lower. Remember guys like Morrison dominate the college game but when it comes to NBA draft workouts there lack of athleticism and defense leave scouts saying don't take this guy. If you want Morrison you can trade down and catch him believe me he won't be anywhere near #1 and #2 as Aldridge and Gay have that on lock. I know NBAdraft.net has him two but they also have Reddick in the top five when ESPN doesn't even have him top ten. I know I know hoops hype has Morrison five but that hasn't been updated since like November. My question is why draft Morrison that high when you have Aldridge you teams will be fighting over and Gay who is the second most sought after player. These guys not only would be better for your team (as they improve your defense) but they also have the better trade value. Drafting Morrison make no sense. Aldridge on your radar with the Denver pick is a joke seeing as he will be gone by number #3 guranteed and it is almost a forgone conclusion that he will be gone by number #2.

shookem · 12-21-2005, 09:32 AM

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Well, I think the point is that it's too early to say who is #1,2,3,4 etc. Right now it's just better to look at the top prospects and let the chips land where they may. We may end up getting the third or fourth pick, after all.

Benis007 · 12-21-2005, 09:43 AM

Really makes no sense to let go of the sure thing (Bosh).

Morrison has put up impressive numbers thus far. Him and Reddick are going to be hit or miss in the pro game though. I watched Morrison's highlights against PoDunk U the other night and he went back door on his defender all day... I will make my decision on Morrison after I see him play a couple more big games against big time talent. As for Reddick.. he's got the talent, but doesn't have the physical tools to be effective everynight in the NBA.

6-4, 190lbs - Non-NBA Body.

6-9, 220lbs - NBA Body.

I like Rudy Gay if we are going to pick a SG. Reddick has the edge in range, but Gay gives you a much more complete package. Pick Gay with our first pick or trade down.

billfindlay10 · 12-21-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tbp82

Morrison your pick. Why draft Morrison #1 or #2 when you will *probably* be able to get him much lower. Remember guys like Morrison dominate the college game but when it comes to NBA draft workouts there lack of athleticism and defense leave scouts saying don't take this guy. If you want Morrison you can trade down and catch him believe me he won't be anywhere near #1 and #2 as Aldridge and Gay have that on lock. I know NBAdraft.net has him two but they also have Reddick in the top five when ESPN doesn't even have him top ten. I know I know hoops hype has Morrison five but that hasn't been updated since like November. My question is why draft Morrison that high when you have Aldridge you teams will be fighting over and Gay who is the second most sought after player. These guys not only would be better for your team (as they improve your defense) but they also have the better trade value. Drafting Morrison make no sense. Aldridge on your radar with the Denver pick is a joke seeing as he will be gone by number #3 guranteed and it is almost a forgone conclusion that he will be gone by number #2.

I see Morrison as being a "special player", a guy who will make his team better. He may not be a lock down defender or a super athlete, but he wil be a winner! Morrison scores within the offense and still puts up 28 points per game. Sure he is a great midrange scorer, but watch a full game of his and watch how many times he beats his man on a back cut. This guy is a ball player and will be a great pro. As far as Aldridge goes all I see is Joe Smith....not worthy of the number one pick.(or 2 or 3) How many times to we see players picked so high in the draft because they are big and can run the floor....what happens to these guys.....Smith, Stro Swift, Kwame Brown, Chandler, Bowie, Lefrentz....some of these guys are solid....not allstars. Aldridge is not Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Hakeem, or even C-Webb.

I never said Morrison was going to be a #1 pick....just that he is "my pick". I would like to see him on the raptor's squad. Chris Mullin and a healthy Grant Hill come to mind....guys who just play ball. I am sure Babs would pick Gay before Morrison...but I am not sold on Aldridge.

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