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Old 02-03-2006, 01:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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MLSE lost money so they sold Dever pick

Mark my words people unless there is another trade hinging off this Rose to NY Deal it is being done totally because MLSE can't see 5 minutes past their next share holders meeting.

They have lost millions due to bad attendence and dumping AWILL and ROSE <b>means saving almost 20 million over the remainder of this year and next</b>.

that is why they fired babcock and that is why they are essentially giving away the pick for nothing.


Remember MO Pete was drafted 21st over all.
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Old 02-03-2006, 01:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: MLSE lost money so they sold Dever pick

there giving away the pick?

The Raps are going to gain almost 16 million dollars in cap space this off season
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Old 02-03-2006, 02:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: MLSE lost money so they sold Dever pick

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there giving away the pick?

The Raps are going to gain almost 16 million dollars in cap space this off season,
for one season - they would have that in the following year any how. That draft pick could be a useful top college prospect under a rookie cap for 5 yrs.
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Re: MLSE lost money so they sold Dever pick

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for one season - they would have that in the following year any how. That draft pick could be a useful top college prospect under a rookie cap for 5 yrs.
There saving around 20 million with this deal, that is a huge amount of money, and 16 million of which will come of the cap this season and can be used to sign a free agent,

Start complaining when the Raptors sign some crap free agent or worse dont sign anyone at all

This deal looks good to me, for now

PS: anyone got a list of this offseasons free agents
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Old 02-03-2006, 02:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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PS: anyone got a list of this offseasons free agents
More importanly who want to come to toronto and play with an organization that has Richard Peddie as the head man.... any takers?

Mark Jackson?
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Re: MLSE lost money so they sold Dever pick

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There saving around 20 million with this deal, that is a huge amount of money, and 16 million of which will come of the cap this season and can be used to sign a free agent,

Start complaining when the Raptors sign some crap free agent or worse dont sign anyone at all

This deal looks good to me, for now

PS: anyone got a list of this offseasons free agents
maybe you should look at this year's list of offseason free agent before accusing other posters of "complaining".

I would say 80% of this deal is motivated by the money-saving.
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there giving away the pick?

The Raps are going to gain almost 16 million dollars in cap space this off season
incorrect it will only be 9 million in cap space

Rose contract is 16mil
Davis is contract is 14 mil

Raps salary is 58 mil with rose and with davis it's 56 mil after this season it's 42 mil it's only 9 mil in cap space
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incorrect it will only be 9 million in cap space

Rose contract is 16mil
Davis is contract is 14 mil

Raps salary is 58 mil with rose and with davis it's 56 mil after this season it's 42 mil it's only 9 mil in cap space
$36 million.
http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/toronto.htm
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that's assuming James and eric williams opt out and I didn't include Lammond Murray's contract to my calculation
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Re: MLSE lost money so they sold Dever pick

Yes, they sold the pick. Absolutely.

But they got a hell of a price for it. What team was it that sold their lotto pick to CHI or DAL a couple of year ago. I think all they got was 3mill or so. We got 16 mill.

That's a good BUSINESS transaction. Maybe not a great basketball transaction.

Nobody else wanted Jalen. Even the Knicks didn't really want Jalen, they wanted the pick. Knicks have to pay 32 mill just for next season for Jalen because of the tax. Ridiculous.
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Re: MLSE lost money so they sold Dever pick

Do we know that this is the Denver pick? Could it not be a heavily-protected first rounder or a distant future first rounder?
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Old 02-03-2006, 02:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: MLSE lost money so they sold Dever pick

We're going to spend that money anyways. For that pick we will get a good free agent or make a nice trade, hopefully.

Besides, the draft is thin this year.
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Old 02-03-2006, 04:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I would like the original poster to post a link to the source which indicates the Raptors financial loses for this year because I'm pretty sure he is just making things up.
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I would like the original poster to post a link to the source which indicates the Raptors financial loses for this year because I'm pretty sure he is just making things up.

The only link you need is the one that say how attendence has reached an all time low.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=970081562040

MLSE is all about making money leaf fans will tell you that - too bad the dumbARSES OVER there don't know about making a winner as that would yeild the most $$$$$$$$$ they have ever seen.
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