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Old 02-10-2006, 09:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Bonner in a brutal funk

The red rocket has looked so bad for a long time - I have been defending him on these boards but dang.

seems like everyone is getting better while he is getting worse - what is wrong with MAtt - this is beyond a slump???



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Old 02-10-2006, 09:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

he looks he is scared to shoot or unsure whether or not he wants to shoot
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Old 02-10-2006, 10:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

^ I think the team putting pressure on him to dribble and drive has muddied the waters for him. When he focuses on his spot up he is great. When he tries to do too much he gets unselfish and erratic.

His rebounding is still helpful, though. He seems to get tough offensive rebounds every night. Had a good block in the Charlotte game, too. The hustle remains.
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

Im not positive but hes only hit 2 3's in th past 7 games. thats rediculous
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

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^ I think the team putting pressure on him to dribble and drive has muddied the waters for him. When he focuses on his spot up he is great. When he tries to do too much he gets unselfish and erratic.

His rebounding is still helpful, though. He seems to get tough offensive rebounds every night. Had a good block in the Charlotte game, too. The hustle remains.
i agree, i mean jalen was in this slump b4 as well. i juss think he needs to stop focusing too much on wat he WANTS to do rather than wat he NEEDS to do. i kno he is trying to add another arsenal to his game, but as mitchell says time and time again "i will not make you do things that you're not comfortable doing. continue to b the best at wat you do best, and you will succeed" and i think thats wat bonner has to realize.
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^ I think the team putting pressure on him to dribble and drive has muddied the waters for him. When he focuses on his spot up he is great. When he tries to do too much he gets unselfish and erratic.

His rebounding is still helpful, though. He seems to get tough offensive rebounds every night. Had a good block in the Charlotte game, too. The hustle remains.
I thought that too but he is missing wide open looks... hustle and defense keeps him in the line up - but he is going to have to get this figured out - the first half of the season for him has been bad enough that he could have a hard time sticking in the NBA if it persists.

This time last year he was #1 in FGP. his total for the season was <B>533</b>. this year <b>438</b> so far.

had it been the Bonner of old I think those two over time losses would have been wins (Clippers Spurs)
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

Since the season started Matt has tried to do things that he isn't capable of and it has severely hurt the one thing he was good at.

If Matt Bonner isn't hitting those open shots, then the Raptors are at a disadvantage every second he is on the court.

One of Babcocks best moves IMO was not overpaying this guy, he's bearly worth what we paid for him.
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

Jose IMO is in a bigger slum then him
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

Part of his slump comes from Sam Mitchells odd rotations. Jose Calderon and Joey Graham are two other players suffering from this.
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

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Jose IMO is in a bigger slum then him
I agree that Jose is in a slump as well, but at least Jose is helping out the team by finding teammates and creating plays. I think his heel is still bothering him a bit, I wonder what's up with that...

Bonner needs to stop trying to do so much and just focus on what he can do. His dribbling scares me just a little. And when he's on defence, he needs to stop trying to do everything because when he goes over to help, he's leaving someone unattended and when the ball is swung back to that unattended guy, Bonner's not quick enough to run back and get a hand up.
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

you know what, i don't think i'm alone, but i have no worries at all about matt. i think the slump he's in can be attributed to his youth. he's unsure of his shot right now, he's sort of playing his way through it, but he'll obviously come out the other end at some point.

long-term, i think a player like matt will have fewer slumps than the rest. i think he'll become relatively consistent rather quickly. it just takes some experience, some punishment in the early stages of his career. but for him i don't think it'll take as long, don't think it'll take as many ups and downs as, say, charlie villanueva, or especially jose calderon.

i don't worry about bonner. he's just riding the professional learning curve. give him another year.

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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

Jose has hit the wall.

I think the Raps need to realize that Bonner is a taller less athletic (if thats possible) Donyell Marshall.

We need to give up trying to make him into something he ain't. Park him on the 3-pt line and let him do what he does best. With the addition of AD his minutes should go back to the 3 and 4.
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

I agree with Benis007, although I think Bonner clearly tries harder on defense than Marshall does. Park him at the 3 point line and force the defense to extend itself to deal with him or let him bury them with 3s (still shooting roughly 40% from the 3 point line). Don't pass him the ball unless he's wide open or you just want to re-post or something like that.
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Re: Bonner in a brutal funk

What is going on with bonner, he had 3 to 5 open looks and instead of shooting the ball he dribbled or pass the ball back..couple of times mitchell and calderon had to remind him to shoot the ball when he is open
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Part of his slump comes from Sam Mitchells odd rotations. Jose Calderon and Joey Graham are two other players suffering from this.


what I Was gonna say....
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