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**speedythief** · 05-09-2006, 10:23 AM

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"I think Toronto is not a good team for him because they shoot a lot of three-points and he can't show his game," Varejao said before the Cavs practised at the Palace of Auburn Hills to prepare for tonight's Game 2 of the Eastern Conference semifinals. "He can do nothing there."

..."I told him I was surprised. ... I didn't know someone was going to draft him so high," Varejao said. "That's the bad thing for him; he was too high and he doesn't play. If he is my situation, like a second round or something like that, nobody expects stuff. There (Toronto) for him is a bad thing."

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...t1091558619815

l2owen · 05-09-2006, 10:52 AM

i would agree toronto is a bad place for hoffa , why?

douchebag fans who booed him as a rookie and a soph. give the guy a --- break he couldnt help being drafted at 8th and now youre gonna boo him everytime he touches the ball? go --- yourselves , go find another game to watch , stay at home, dont come to the game, no one needs fans who are going to boo their own rookies . when it comes to ignorant bandwagoner fans who come to games toronto may be up there. remember the douchebag who was saying babcock killed the raps? guess what you bald ------ , glen grunwald --- us in the *** ten times worse with his hakeem , alvin , jyd , and ad overpaying .

apart from that i dont really see problems with hoff in toronto, he will get lots of playing time if we since we are twinkie soft in the middle , and if he can FURTHER advance his bruising / physical intimidator game to go alongside bosh then we have ourselves a backup c. however again the --- fans are the main reason why i dont see him wanting to stay. i wouldnt either. any place that booes its own rookies doesnt deserve to keep them . i dont know if its the ignorant puckheads , or corporate stooges that come to games these days, but no serious RAPTOR FAN would EVER BOO HIS OWN TEAM . i love the raptors way too much to boo my warriors, especially when they give 110% each time. yeah hes slow, yeah maybe hesnot quick to learn BUT NEVER BOO A ROOKIE WHO IS GIVING HIS ALL. cause if you do youre just an ignorant piece of ----.

however booing the team collectively when they put up stinker blowouts IS OK for MOTIVATION, its never ok to get blown out in your own building. but booing a player specifically , isolating him because of what rob babcock did , and because of what you read in the papers... youre missing some brain matter.

mo76 · 05-09-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by l2owen

i would agree toronto is a bad place for hoffa , why?

douchebag fans who booed him as a rookie and a soph. give the guy a --- break he couldnt help being drafted at 8th and now youre gonna boo him everytime he touches the ball? go --- yourselves , go find another game to watch , stay at home, dont come to the game, no one needs fans who are going to boo their own rookies . when it comes to ignorant bandwagoner fans who come to games toronto may be up there. remember the douchebag who was saying babcock killed the raps? guess what you bald ------ , glen grunwald --- us in the *** ten times worse with his hakeem , alvin , jyd , and ad overpaying .

apart from that i dont really see problems with hoff in toronto, he will get lots of playing time if we since we are twinkie soft in the middle , and if he can FURTHER advance his bruising / physical intimidator game to go alongside bosh then we have ourselves a backup c. however again the --- fans are the main reason why i dont see him wanting to stay. i wouldnt either. any place that booes its own rookies doesnt deserve to keep them . i dont know if its the ignorant puckheads , or corporate stooges that come to games these days, but no serious RAPTOR FAN would EVER BOO HIS OWN TEAM . i love the raptors way too much to boo my warriors, especially when they give 110% each time. yeah hes slow, yeah maybe hesnot quick to learn BUT NEVER BOO A ROOKIE WHO IS GIVING HIS ALL. cause if you do youre just an ignorant piece of ----.

however booing the team collectively when they put up stinker blowouts IS OK for MOTIVATION, its never ok to get blown out in your own building. but booing a player specifically , isolating him because of what rob babcock did , and because of what you read in the papers... youre missing some brain matter.

Screw hoffa edited. edited.
We could have had Igoudala. Frankly I dont give a **** about Hoffas feelings. Fans that pay to go to the game can voice their opinion. Hoffa was a bad pick. Fans have the right to voice their displeasure. Peronally, I think any raptor fan that doesnt boo hoffa is ignorant. Hes clearly never going to be an important part of this team and that was evident from day 1.
Hes getting 3 mill a year to be a bumb. If he doesnt like it in TO, he should just go **** himself.

please do not attack other posters. speedy.

**speedythief** · 05-09-2006, 11:50 AM

^ He has never said he doesn't like Toronto. This is his friend, Varejao, sticking up for him.

Any Raptor fan that boos Araujo doesn't want him to get better, which is sad.

l2owen · 05-09-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mo76

Screw hoffa and screw you. Its clear that you know nothing about basketball.
We could have had Igoudala. Frankly I dont give a **** about Hoffas feelings. Fans that pay to go to the game can voice their opinion. Hoffa was a bad pick. Fans have the right to voice their displeasure. Peronally, I think any raptor fan that doesnt boo hoffa is ignorant. Hes clearly never going to be an important part of this team and that was evident from day 1.
Hes getting 3 mill a year to be a bumb. If he doesnt like it in TO, he should just go **** himself.

edited hoffa didnt pick himself as the 8th pick, rob babcock did. edited in that case boo every player that was picked before tony parker/michael redd/ jamal magloire/ and any other picks that came before and didnt play as well as those guys above. edited

please never edit over a moderator. it is an automatic suspension, FYI. no more warnings will be issued.

mo76 · 05-09-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by l2owen

edited hoffa didnt pick himself as the 8th pick, rob babcock did. edited

please stay civil. speedy.

I mean that fans could voice their displeasure about the the pick by booing hoffa. Its unfair to Hoffa, but i dont really care.

Why would you boo every player that was picked before parker and ginobili. I dont expect raps GM/management to do a perfect job, but when they waste a pick on a player with no skill or potential, its infuriating and embarrasing.

edited

l2owen · 05-09-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by l2owen

edited hoffa didnt pick himself as the 8th pick, rob babcock did. edited in that case boo every player that was picked before tony parker/michael redd/ jamal magloire/ and any other picks that came before and didnt play as well as those guys above. edited

please never edit over a moderator. it is an automatic suspension, FYI. no more warnings will be issued.

huh who edited over you? that was a single post and any extra stuff was about basketball

l2owen · 05-09-2006, 12:21 PM

boo mo peterson as well because guess what. michael redd was picked 20 spots lower.

**speedythief** · 05-09-2006, 12:21 PM

This is the most I've had to edit in months. Please do not continue to attack each other, final warning.

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Originally Posted by l2owen

huh who edited over you? that was a single post and any extra stuff was about basketball

You can see my original edit in mo's quote. You changed it back, hence my re-edit. Please refrain from such conduct in the future.

l2owen · 05-09-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mo76

I mean that fans could voice their displeasure about the the pick by booing hoffa. Its unfair to Hoffa, but i dont really care.

Why would you boo every player that was picked before parker and ginobili. I dont expect raps GM/management to do a perfect job, but when they waste a pick on a player with no skill or potential, its infuriating and embarrasing.

PS, its pretty clear by your reasoning and logic that your 15 like your age says.

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**Crossword** · 05-09-2006, 08:18 PM

Booing Hoffa to the extent that Raptors fans did it, was pathetic. Moreso, it was an example of the influence Toronto sports media has on fans. Most people who were so against the pick they booed the guy, from my personal experiences, didn't have much to back up their opinions but the same anti-Babcock propaganda dudes like ******* and Doug Smith kept typing up in the Star... couldn't form an opinion on their own. I'm not saying this is why all those who booed Hoffa took part in the act, everyone has their own reasons. But admitting to its unfairness and its unproductiveness, and then saying you don't care, you're essentially saying you don't care that it's bad for the team. What kind of fan supports something that's bad for their team?

Instead of swearing and attacking people... think things through...

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