mo76

I realize the guy is better than Lampe. I was comparing the situations of how a high lottery pick (lampe was projected as high as five) fell because of concern about the situation with his euro league club. If the raptors do draft Bargani i will expect them to trade CV3 ( i dont want that to happen). Bosh, Charlie, Bonner, Williams are all 3-4s. Joey Graham isnt going to play the 2 either imo. I want a player that is taken with a top 5 pick to have a shot at starting, especially on a week team like the raptors. The example of taking Arujo over Igudala is meaningless, hoffa was a horendously stupid pick. I beleive in taking the BPA, but the line has to be drawn somewhere before we cross into atlanta hawks territory.

clutchmoney

Also, the thing is the 'euro' picks were the thing to do back then (Lampe day's)...there had been a lot of false info/bad scounting on the part of the NBA teams. I just don't think the guy will fall, if anything his stock is going to rise. in my opinion...... i understand your point aboutthe club situation...it will affect his value.

Get rid of Charlie V? HELL NO! This is a guy who likes T.O...and it appeared that he played better at the SF position than the PF. So basically you will have Bosh/Bargnani play PF..with each one playing center for a while....and then hopefully there will also be a starting center (Pryzbilla/NEne/Nazr/trade)

ATCQ

ya! let's cut bosh's minutes so that charlie v, bargnani, and a yet to be signed, average center can play! good idea!

Team Mao

I don't see why Bargnani will be held to 20 minutes per game. Charlie was given 29 mpg and probably woud've been higher had Jalen not been in the lineup for the first few months. If you are suggesting that we keep his minutes down to give minutes to Pop n' Boner than you're crazy, these guys are fringe NBAers. I say take advantage of the Triple Towers versatility, Bosh can play 2 positions and CV and Bargs can both play 3 positions, shake it up a bit, make other teams react to us defensively with their lineups.

aizn

whose to say that bargnani is the best player available at our pick (pending where it is)? you're basically saying that we should pick up a proven center or a pass-first point guard with a top 5 pick...and who might that b in this draft? Marcus Williams? LaMarcus Aldridge? Aldridge would likely b gone by our pick, and he's another PF. Williams on the other hand is not a top 5 pick, but u'd want us to waste it to pull another Araujo? (ie, taking a player 10 picks ahead of where they're supposed to be drafted). Other than that, you have players like Rodney Carney, Rudy Gay, and Brandon Roy that would great picks, but would definetly not start on this team. So, the question gets asked: we have a weak team (i dont consider us weak), nobody draftable that fits our needs, yet you want to draft a player that will start for us? Sorry to break it to you, but it won't happen. I'd rather draft bargnani or gay than anyone else.

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mo76

I never said Bargani would be the BPA but everyone on here seems to be 100% convinced of that. Id say the BPA would likely be Rudy Gay. Rodney Carney or Rudy Gay would be able to get more minutes playing 2-3 than Bargani would at the 3-4. I think we should draft gay or carney. Raptors need another athletic wing player, its listed as one of our 3 main needs.

clutchmoney

that's 96 minutes to be played between 3 players. Chris Bosh will still get his minutes...don't know where you are making your assumptions from. and also Charlie V. will play mainly' the 3 spot! i think you need to read my post again....or just need to learn math

clutchmoney

good post

mo76

Its not like those 96 minutes can just be evenly split up. Teams star players ie chris bosh and charlie v. should essentially play the whole game with periodic breaks. Its not like friggin public school basketball. And i dont know where you are getting this idea that charlie V is better at the 3. His natural position is most definately 4. Hes great on offence (looks great driving, causes mismatches) but cant defend perimeter players at all. So if we have a bargani/center, bosh and charlie on the floor at the same time, it gives the other team a favorable matchup on their offense. Charlie will likely spend most of his time at the 3 in toronto, but the last thing we need is another 3/4 on this team. Im fine with any other of the projected picks in our range, but barganni makes no sense whatsover. Many "experts" thought it was stupid that we took charlie V who was a similair player to bosh. They were wrong, but it would be pretty stupid to draft a player that is similar to charlie V one year later. That would create a LOGJAM AT THE 4. Its not that complicated.