Dee-Zy

Agree'd.

A PG I like is Speedy Claxton. I remember during a game between Raps and Horns, the commentators, maybe chuck, pointed out a lot of great things about him, pass first, leader, experience, ect. but that he will prolly stay with the hornets and come off the bench because that's the role he wants/like right now.

But I am hearing from hornets fans that he will prolly not stay in NOK next season, if that's the case, I Think raps should def snatch him and make him our Sam Cassell, perhaps start him for the first year and have Calderon learn from him, and maybe after a few months, Calderon can start and have him come off the bench.


thoughts?

Dee-Zy

Over the nets? I think we can make the playoffs, but not by winning our division. More like 8th seed with like a 40-42 record or something.

MonsterBosh

Thanks for the clarification .... but I still have doubt that a playoff run is possible for the Raptors.

It seems that the Raptors will again be in the same situation as at the start of the last season with new players being brought in and the inability to jell from the beginning of the season. Yes last years rookies should do much better considering the amount of playing time they experienced, but it seems that we are still expecting miracles from the #1 pick plus new FAs. This is the NBA and miracles are rare.

Shouldn't we expect no more than last season from the Raptors as Colangelo starts his rebuilding of the team? I think it would be unfair to judge Colangelo on the expectation that the Raptors should make the playoffs this season.

Junkyard Dog13

#1 Aldridge, sign some vet to short term deal i.e Kandi man to 2 year 5 mill range deal (pryz, Nazr & Nene are all 6-8 mill & above per year C's unless BC can get any of them for 4-5/season)

PG really think Calderon has good potential just needs to develop that consistent jumper, I would'nt mind a guy like Banks for a season or 2 until Ukic if he is any good can play #2 back up minutes.

There will be plenty of guys at 35 that we could slowley groom to be our long term PG if Calderon does'nt pan out.

I saw danial Gibson Texas a month or 2 as high as a top 15 pick but have seem slip to the mid 2nd rnd nba draft.net orginally had his nba comparism Billups now Fisher, reading his bio there are things that intrige me they are in Bold

NBA Comparison: Derek Fisher

Strengths: Point Guard with advanced scoring skills ... Scores well within the flow of the game and does a good job of setting the table ... Combines excellent quickness and athleticism with competitiveness and drive ... Great court vision and reaction speed to find open teammates ... Has a killer crossover dribble ... Shoots the 3 ball well, which also makes his crossover that much more lethal ... Good basketball understanding and decision maker ... Excels in the open court and loves to push the ball up quickly... He is not the passer and floor general that TJ Ford was, but he has better size, and much better shooting ability ... His size makes him an intruiging prospect ...

Weaknesses: Experience... He has been thrown right in the fire as an instant starter in his freshman season at Texas, but he has handled it well ... His half court game is a work in progress ... Still must become comfortable with the nuances of the PG position, controlling the tempo, getting everyone involved, etc... He has the ability to be the type of point guard that makes everyone else better, he just needs time to further develop those skills ...

sounds like a good prospect but seems to be a another combo player I say take him at 35 or trade up from 56 to about 43 package the 56 & the 2nd rnd via Hornets(2007)

stick him in the NBDL for a year let him become more of a PG then next camp let him & Ukic if here duke it out for back up PG.

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MonsterBosh

^^^^

JD13 .... it all sounds good, but do you expect with all the changes and additions that your Raptor team will suddenly gell into a playoff contender??

TRON

could be a useful backup, not the best athlete, but a player you can throw his name in with guys like Gibson, Diaz, Dee Brown as possible second round pickups to help out at a depleted postion for us.

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icehawk

I just want to see the Raps get a temporary replacement (maybe 2 years) to man our point until either Jose Calderon or Roko Ukic is ready to step up and start.

There's no point in acquiring another young PG who isn't ready to step up now but a couple years from now (Jack or Telfair, for instance).

I want to see a transaction (either via trade or free agency) for a veteran who can step in right now and run this young team the right way.

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Gkwizzle

calderon does't have GREAT court vision, plus he needs to develop a jumpshot since he can't hit any open jumpers. He'd be a great 2nd or 3rd option for PG not a starter. He wouldn't be able to start on most nba teams right now.

Junkyard Dog13

2006-07 sneak in as a 6th-8th seed
07-08 top 4 seed

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mo76

I agree that our rotation is kind of thin at PG, but why do we have to trade the number one pick. Try for something better. Atleast dont give portland an early christmass present.

frank_white

I don't know if anyone's mentioned him yet, but Tinsley might be a good fit. He's got handles and is a good playmaker, and Indy has 3 point guards at the moment.

Crossword

I'm with you on not just dropping three spots for Jarrett (freakin) Jack. I was saying we need to get a 3rd point guard, even if we do make that deal. Jack wouldn't complete our three-guard rotation.

Crossword

He's also liable for being injured damn near half the season, too.

Crossword

I mentioned this in the workouts thread, but what do you guys think about trading for a mid-first rounder and picking up a point that way? Not sure where guys like Rondo and Williams will end up, but that's something to keep in mind when thinking about trading our #1 pick. Sure Portland or Atlanta throwing in a high 2nd rounder is nice, but getting two firsts is even nicer.

Team Mao

If we can get a guy with a year or two left on a relatively cheap deal, cool. But people talking about signing Marcus F'in Banks! The beginning of the season, Calderon was playing amazingly for a rookie PG, it wasn't until the injury slowed him down and Sam started playing the quick hook game that his game slowed down. If you looked at his Euroleague percentages, there is no way that he's always been a poort shooter. IMO, the injury took a lot out of his game, especially shooting- if you feel pain when you jump (which I understand is common with his type of foot injury) I would imagine that would disrupt your mechanics, leading to a lot of errant shots.

Back to the patience thing. If we sign a guy this year for something in the ballpark of 4 or 5 million, then that is 4 or 5 million less we'll have in 2007 offseason. If we're not happy with Jose and Roko doesn't show the potential to become a quality starter in the league, then we make serious runs at the big two (Hinrich and Ford), it may be hard to pry them away but we'll have the financial ability to do so unless we're stupid this year. Remember, no one thought that Nash would leave Dallas that year, but he went to a team that had done horribly the year before. And who was it who made that magical transaction occur? Oh yeah, it was Colangelo.

We got lucky and we got the #1 pick, let's hope we use it on a young C/PF (I won't name names), that way we don't feel it necessary to sign a bum like Przy for $8mil long term. I say bring Mihm up here from the Lakers who would be a suitable backup, sometime starter while our rookie develops and expires in a year, maybe we keep him, maybe we don't. We have to be careful with when and who we give our money to.

But if the Raptors want to get a really good PG, they're not going to get one if they decide to sign Marcus Banks or Speedy Claxton (and they say Jose has no shot) to a 4 or 5 year deal. Patience.