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Starbury03 · 06-02-2006, 11:04 PM

He reminds me of Taysaun Prince can be a lock down defender and isnt know for shooting but will be capable in the league. Prince seems to be doing fine with his build. I still dont think he will be as good as Prince but he will be a nice player in the league.

Greg Ostertag! · 06-03-2006, 12:18 AM

Brad Newley, you all.

Ballyhoo · 06-03-2006, 04:12 AM

Paul Millsap. I know we don't need yet another PF, but if he's there I'd take him anyway.

frank_white · 06-04-2006, 07:50 PM

Guards
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Diaz (if still available)
Lowry (if still available)
Maurice Ager

Jose Juan Barea
Bobby Brown
Dee Brown
Shannon Brown
James White
maybe Darius Washington
maybe Ray Allen

Centers
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Saer Sene
Paul Davis
Josh Boone
maybe Ryan Hollins

Other Possibilities/Rebounders & Defenders
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Bobby Jones
PJ Tucker

**MonkeyBallZJr** · 06-04-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by frank_white

Guards
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Diaz (if still available)
Lowry (if still available)
Maurice Ager

Jose Juan Barea
Bobby Brown
Dee Brown
Shannon Brown
James White
maybe Darius Washington
maybe Ray Allen

Centers
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Saer Sene
Paul Davis
Josh Boone
maybe Ryan Hollins

Other Possibilities/Rebounders & Defenders
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Bobby Jones
PJ Tucker

Saer Sene would be great but I highly doubt he will be around by the second round. I'm predicting he'll go late first round.

**ballocks** · 06-05-2006, 11:17 AM

i haven't really considered the 35 much. something tells me we're in the market for another first. i know bryan claims we're young enough already, he's probably right about that, but i don't think he'd be averse to picking up an experienced kid in the 15-20 range. if we can retain strong leadership skills along the sideline (carried by darrick martin, gene keady, sam mitchell and others this past season), i don't think we necessarily need to turn our attention from the draft. we're already young but we're not raw. there's a clear difference there. in fact, i would suggest that to be an advantage and possibly a reason to seek out another pick.

and even if i/you don't believe that, something just... tells me. are we planning to stay at 1? i doubt it. are we planning to stay at 35? doubt that, too.

peace

no_free_baskets · 06-05-2006, 12:34 PM

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Just say no to Dee Brown.

His numbers collapsed last year when he didn't have Deron & Luther with him. His shooting percentages were terrifyingly bad. (36% from the floor, 52% from the arc, way too many trey attempts.)

yeah his numbers dropped significantly without williams and head when he was asked to be the lead guy, but so what? hes obviously not going to a number 1 or 2 option in the league...if hes going to be drafted by the raps, hes going to be a complimentary player, just like when he was playing with williams and head, a role, if you say him play last yr, he excelled at...i mean just look at the raw numbers and accomplishment... the guy put up 50 % fg 43% 3pt and was name big ten player of the yr over two already very good nba players in williams and head...you say he shoots too much and shoots too many 3's in general, based on what he did this yr? again, i think its absolutely wrong to put so much emphasis on his stats this yr, based on what his role will be on the next level...i mean the guy had to put up those shots up this yr for his team to have a chance to win...who was going to score if he didnt? hence the bad fg% numbers this yr...he obviously wont have the same responsibilities when hes playing in the league...

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Originally Posted by mad viking

He is supposed to be a guy who can score and pass, but in fact this is a lie. He can score OR pass. He never had a double-double. His four 10+ assist games came when he couldn't hit the backboard with his shot, and gave up shooting. Credit for that, but you want a guy who makes shoot or pass decisions based on what the defence gives you. A good point will have days with points and assists. Dee shoots until he decides he's off for the day. Then he passes.

is he a pure, pure pt? no, but he really doesnt even have to be in the nba to be effective given his quickness and his shooting ability....decsion making for dee in the nba will be much more simplified with the preference to man d over zones + the role he will be asked to play...put a man d on brown n i feel he will be disruptive as he obviously has the quickness to get by his man..if u have that ability to get by your man in man d, its huge because now you're creating a situation where ur basically 5 on 4 on offense...if guys sag off him to prevent the penetration, brown will bury with the 3 as hes a very capable outsider shooter...similarly, if bosh is double team, hes another 3pt option as he can shoot the 3 effectively...

i dont think either its really rocket science what he has to do in distributing the ball in our offense...a)get it to bosh in iso, b)get it to bosh in the pt, get it to cv in the high post..its really not that hard...hes also unselfish and had a very good turnover rate at ill., which all speaks to me and says that he isnt as bad a decision maker as you make him out to be...the only valid pt i see u making is that he too small to finish in the paint...which is probably the case, so i guess hes not a perfect player......i will take that negative, with all the positives he brings with his game

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Originally Posted by mad viking

He will get posterized by about half the NBA point guards. Imagine him trying to defend Chauncey, Kidd, Payton, Arenas or even Delonte West. (He would be nice against guys like Iverson, Parker & TJ Ford) So while size isn't a dealbreaker, it is a concern.

no offense, but this one is just the silliest argument of the three...how many times do you see a pg. dunk in game? i venture to say hardly ever...having someone dunk on brown is the least of my concern... kidd and payton are the only ones that have some semblence of a post game, but they are the exception rather then the rule...the most important thing in terms of pg play defensively is to be able to defend dribble penetration, which brown has the ability to do in spades...brown is a very good on the ball defender, something the raps absolutely need....

and i havent really gone into his intangibles (i.e clutch ability, work ethic, etc, etc...) this guy is easily a great fit for the raps, theres no doubt about it in my mind...

no_free_baskets · 06-26-2006, 02:58 PM

thought i would bump this thread since draft day is only 2 days away and i thought it could be interesting to get some dialogue going on the raps early 2nd round pick...

well all my guys i have were picked before the orlando pre-camp and were considered 2nd round guys in most mock drafts...all my guys have improved their stock post orlando camp, with dee brown, gibson, and white possibly going in the 1st...

heres who i like at 35:

1.dee brown ( really think he has a chance to start on this team...)

2. james white
3. bobby jones
4. daniel gibson (easily the most talented guy on the list, but feel like he might try to dominate the ball too much on this particular team...no chance he does with lebron...cle. is a real good fit imo...

picks at 56:

1. taj gray
2. darius washington
3. sean dockery

billfindlay10 · 06-26-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by no_free_baskets

thought i would bump this thread since draft day is only 2 days away and i thought it could be interesting to get some dialogue going on the raps early 2nd round pick...

well all my guys i have were picked before the orlando pre-camp and were considered 2nd round guys in most mock drafts...all my guys have improved their stock post orlando camp, with dee brown, gibson, and white possibly going in the 1st...

heres who i like at 35:

1.dee brown ( really think he has a chance to start on this team...)

2. james white
3. bobby jones
4. daniel gibson (easily the most talented guy on the list, but feel like he might try to dominate the ball too much on this particular team...no chance he does with lebron...cle. is a real good fit imo...
5. darius washington
6. sean dockery
7. taj gray

I like Dockery with a second round pick!!!!!!!!

different_13 · 06-26-2006, 04:02 PM

Bobby Jones would be good, nice lockdown defender to have off the bench for either the 2 or 3.

James White, even if only for marketability - he's not a bad player either, adds depth to the 2.

Not gonna mention points, as having 2 rookies (if foreign guy comes over) and a sophomore running the point isnt necesarily a good idea, but that depends.

-James- · 06-26-2006, 04:54 PM

James White and Mike Gansey.

babcock_sux · 06-26-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by no_free_baskets

im pretty excited about being able to pick up some nice talent at this pick...

there looks to be some nice value at pg. that might be available at this spot...dee brown is my guy, but i also like dockery, gibson (hate his game at texas but really, worse case scenario, hes more then talented enough to come off the bench n be a 3rd g. scorer type) and washington...if we're to believe the mocks most if not all will be available at our pick (i have my doubts brown will be available thou.)

also, there seems to a few good wing. defenders that are said to be available at this spot as well...even thou. ive never seen jones play, n sh. brown or adams only a couple of times, i trust in bc that he'll get us a good wing defender, which we absolutely need...any of those 3 guys im happy with too...

taj gray is another guy i think is a 1st round talent except for the fact that he may be undersized...i would really like if the raps took a look at this guy come draft night as i feel like if the mock drafts are correct (mid-late 2nd round pick), hes really undervalued at this pt...

Dee Brown
Maurice Ager
PJ Tucker
Paul Davis

Pain5155 · 06-26-2006, 09:04 PM

Dee Brown, if it wasnt for that injury last year he wouldve been at least a 1st round pick in 05.

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