adhir1

What are you thoughts on this kid? I think he would be an amazing player, if we could pry him away from the Clips, the 1+ Joey Graham or Eric Williams could possibly get it done. I mean imaging playing

Livingston 6'8 /Mopete 6'7/Charlie 6'11/Chris Bosh 6'10/ FA Center, Diaw 6'9?

WOW, they could run and gun with the best of them, and their all tall and create match up HAVOC on opposing teams....i could see it now...raptors rebound, Livingston on the break alley oop-BOSH with the JJJJJJJAMMMMMM, or Bargnani rebound, livingston on the break, drop pass to Villanueva 3 BALL IN THE AAAAAAAAIR GOOOOOD. All im saying is we should, try to pry this kid from the Clips, it could be showtime in Toronto.

Dee-Zy

Not a big fan of Shaun, but if you add Aldridge or Nani to the mix, we would prolly have the tallest line up in the NBA.

That would be sick, very hard to defend too. We would be able to shoot over everybody.

Sham

Diaw is not a free agent.

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bigbabyjesus

I love Livingston and when it's all said and done I think he will be one of the greatest point guards to ever play the game.. BUT, passing on a Charlie, Bosh, Aldridge frontcourt would haunt me forever.

Although, here's an idea:

To LA: #1 pick
To Toronto: Shaun Livingston, Quinton Ross

Shaun Livingston
Morris Peterson
Charlie Villanueva
Chris Bosh
Nene

Not bad, but again.. the Aldridge frontcourt just intrigues me far too much.. With that said, if we are planning on picking Bargnani.. that changes everything.

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icehawk

With Cassell being as old as a rock and possibly leaving, the Clippers have Livingston on their untouchable list. There's not really any good PG prospects in this year's draft or next year's draft and they know it. They have a great front court of Kaman and Brand so there's no reason to add an Aldridge, Bargnani, or Thomas at the expense of your only young PG.

I'd love to see Livingston here but his injuries scare me. Frankly, he's not worth the number one pick but the kid is oozing with so much potential it's got be drooling just thinking how good he could be. COULD be, that is.

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ATLien

First off.. Aldridge is good, but he's not that good. I mean, I like him. He is a plausable player to take #1 overall. But, just, no.

Secondly.. I don't really think a Livingston trade is plausable. He is the Clippers' best young player, and Toronto doesn't really have the right pieces to make that type of a move.

Looking at your starting 5 with Livingston, who guards the opposing team's SF? Can Villanueva keep up with teams like the Nets (Carter/Jefferson)? And do you really want Shaun Livingston guarding the Chris Pauls, Dwayne Wades, and Allen Iversons of the league? He is a PG, but he's 6'7". Isn't that why Penny Hardaway got all his injury problems?

bigbabyjesus

Okay.

Don't have the right pieces? #1 pick, Charlie Villanueva, Joey Graham, Mike James, Morris Peterson, rights to Roko Ukic.. what are those?

Villanueva will have trouble against quicker teams, but he isn't as bad as one would think. He's no worse guarding SF's than a guy like Rashard Lewis..

As for Shaun guarding those elite backcourt players, did you not notice that Morris Peterson - a bonafide defensive stopper with the quickness to guard point guards was in the lineup? And anyways, one of Shauns stronger assets is his defensive ability and quickness for such a long player.

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Starbury03

The Clippers are not trading Livingston unless it's for guys like Lebron James or Dwayne Wade. There is no way he will be traded for the number 1 pick, they wouldnt even trade him last year for Pierce.

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ATLien

You just don't get it.

bigbabyjesus

Why don't you explain it to me?

Wait.. I don't think you can, because you just got proved wrong.

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ATLien

How can you say Shaun Livingston "will be one of the greatest point guards to ever play the game", and then bring up "#1 pick, Charlie Villanueva, Joey Graham, Mike James, Morris Peterson, rights to Roko Ukic.."? It's inconsistent. If Shaun Livingston is as good as you say he is, then none of those guys would come even close in a trade offer.

Shaun Livingston is probably the 2nd best player in the NBA under 21 years old (after Dwight Howard, IMO). And you are talking about trading Roko Ukic to L.A.? You just don't get it.

Team Mao

Shaun Livingston is the most overrated player on these boards. He's good, but for people to say that greatest point guard of all time is a bit much. First, greatest of all time would require him to play a full season.

bigbabyjesus

Him being as good as I say he is (potentially) is my opinion. My opinion doesn't matter when it comes to trades in the NBA though, if you didn't know.

Yeah. Because clearly when I added Roko to that list of potential trade candidates for Livingston, I was saying it would be a 1 for 1 deal. Your the one who obviously doesn't get it.. learn to read a little better son.

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ATLien

Do you really believe that the Clippers would trade Shaun Livingston for the #1 pick, Charlie Villanueva, and Mike James? I mean, c'mon.. Clippers just had a good playoff run. Shaun Livingston is still so young. They going to get rid of all that for Mike James, who Raptor fans don't even want back, and Charlie Villanueva, who some posters want traded? Your trade proposal is extremely unrealistic.

rainman