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Old 06-05-2006, 01:31 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: The Ammo bandwagon

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Remember this factor also made him cry with two seconds left in the game. His lack of composure concerns me more then his heart.
I said it before but it bears repeating...

I'd rather have a good player that cares than a great player that doesn't.

The last thing I'm concerned about with Ammo is the mental part of his game.
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:32 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Draftexpress.com's AMMO workout:

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1327

90/110 from the NBA 3 point line. Wow.

I'm so confused
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:34 PM   #48 (permalink)
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i guess it makes sense, but think about it: does that mean that adam had nothing to gain by attending this workout? if so, i simply give him points for that- he has nothing to gain ("who cares that he can score against some nobody pf"), everything to lose ("some nobody pf was able to get a hand in almost every shot") and he still does it.
LOL, ballocks. What the hell are you trying to say? You lost me.

People reading too much into whether he works out with a team, or not. It isn't that significant. In 2004, Josh Smith's camp were trying to schedule a workout against Luol Deng, but his people didn't want to risk it. Deng has turned out OK. I don't think it speaks that loud about a player's competitiveness, or what not.

And for all these people clamoring over Adam Morrison's "intensity".. what about Tyrus Thomas. Now, I am not much of a fan of either of the two players. But TT looked like he was about to eat Coach K, after the Duke game. Pretty intense player himself.
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Old 06-05-2006, 02:36 PM   #49 (permalink)
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We'll see I guess when they workout together.

As a person, AM is automatically better. Gay is just another Darius Miles.
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Morrison is slightly better now, but when it's all said and done you won't even be able to mention him in the same sentence as Gay.
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Morrison is slightly better now, but when it's all said and done you won't even be able to mention him in the same sentence as Gay.
only if Gay goes to the raptors.
AMMO can motivate himself.
Gay cannot, but with the help of Sam Mitchell, and his former teammate CV3, he can become a star
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Re: The Ammo bandwagon

can not? you're saying that rudy gay can not motivate himself?

slow down. gay could very well end up the hardest worker in this group.

i don't know these prospects as well as i'd like but i like the mental pictures i'm deriving.

morrison is going to be a pretty money player. he's going to be a very good small forward. if i drafted him, i wouldn't trade him for rashard lewis. right now he's my pick for ROY. he can come in and provide motion on offense, shots created and shots finished. i think he'll be a better passer than expected and has better athletic potential than most expect. hate to have to say it but he's going to be a great white player.

thing that is scary about rudy gay is that even as a rookie, he could be just as effective. gay isn't raw like gerald wallace coming out of alabama. gay is a calhoun product that has been educated and probably somewhat restrained at uconn. his shot is apparantly coming along very nicely and we've seen the difference that this can make with elite athletes. massive defensive potential. he's not going to lead the team but neither does tayshaun prince.
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Re: The Ammo bandwagon

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Don't you want to compare him to Mike Miller, or Matt Harpring? Aren't there more white players out there that are exact indicators of what Ammo will be in the NBA?
Ok, Jalen Rose.

Although Jalen is a better passer, they're pretty similar. Jalen hits clutch shots, and is a crafty scorer in a variety of ways; plus he can't defend a tree stump either.
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Ok, Jalen Rose.

Although Jalen is a better passer, they're pretty similar. Jalen hits clutch shots, and is a crafty scorer in a variety of ways; plus he can't defend a tree stump either.
jalen rose has nowhere near the shooting ability, basketball iq, desire, leadership skills... very bad comparison.
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Morrison is slightly better now, but when it's all said and done you won't even be able to mention him in the same sentence as Gay.
as Gay will be a bust.
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Don't you want to compare him to Mike Miller, or Matt Harpring? Aren't there more white players out there that are exact indicators of what Ammo will be in the NBA?
can't think of any more white comparisons, but how about.....

Glen Robinson
6'7 forward
93-94 - averaged 30.3 PPG (Purdue)

Adam Morrison
6'8 forward
05-06 - averaged 28.1 PPG (Gonzaga)

A Glen Robinson career isn't bad, but as soon as the already slow footspeed decreases, an average veteran player is what is left over....... ie// Glen Robinson
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As a person, AM is automatically better. Gay is just another Darius Miles.
ouch, not Darius Miles

I'd say a more athletically gifted James Posey, with the potential to be an AK-47 type
not a go-to scorer, but an important piece of the puzzle.
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Gay isnt Skinny
dont throw mean words around (like miles and darius)
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I'm a Morrison fan myself.

But would drafting him make CV expendable?
I really like CV at the 3 spot, he brings great rebounding (especially on the offensive board), and for the most part, I feel that he's a better 3 on our team (and arguably the better 3 over all tham AM).

However, AM is a great clutch player. He's the type of player that you want to take the last shot of a close game, and in that regard, may be a better fit for us. We need all the help we can get finish out games.
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