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Old 06-12-2006, 12:28 AM   #31 (permalink)
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trade first for 6th 36th and Eddie Griffin

draft Randy Foye, Rodney Carney, or Ronnie Brewer
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well, bosh was measured in chicago and i don't think he came to more than 6'11 with shoes on.
He was 19 at the time and may have still been growing. I wouldn't be surprised if he's 7' now, or maybe he's just a legit 6'11 and everyone else is exaggerating their height.
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well, bosh was measured in chicago and i don't think he came to more than 6'11 with shoes on.
Player Height Height Weight Wingspan Standing
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Darko Milicic 6-11.5 7-0.75 250 7-5 9-3.5
Pavel Podkozin 7-3.5 7-5 303 7-5.75 9-8
Chris Kaman 6-11.5 7-0.5 252 6-11.75 9-2.5
Chris Marcus 7-0 7-1.5 334 7-8 9-6
Chris Bosh 6-10.25 6-11.5 225 7-3.5 9-1
Mike Sweetney 6-7.25 6-8 262 7-1 8-11.5
Nick Collison 6-8.75 6-10 255 7-1.5 9-0
David West 6-8.25 6-9.25 226 7-4.25 9-0.5
Brian Cook 6-9.5 6-10.25 234 7-2 9-1
Carmelo Anthony 6-6.25 6-7.5 233 7-0 8-9.5
Dwyane Wade 6-3.75 6-4.75 212 6-10.75 8-6
Josh Howard 6-5.25 6-6.5 202 7-2 8-9.5
T.J. Ford 5-11 6-0.25 162 5-11.5 7-9.5
Kirk Hinrich 6-2.75 6-3.75 186 6-6 8-2.5
Luke Ridnour 6-1 6-2 167 6-3 7-11.5

that's what i find
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is there anyone want a powerplayer or highflyer to be our starting 2 or 3 like me?
IMO 1 and 5 really need more experience than other position
so i want to fix 1 and 5 by FA or trade not in this year's draft
i really want Gay ,i think he'll be "the best" player in the future (there's only attitude that can limit him)
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well this thread got off track, so lemme get it back on track, with some controversial. There isnt a perfect player in this league,

who isnt earning a bunch of money,
who is young,
who doesnt have an attitude problem, and
isnt injury prone.

Fortunately for us, our franchise player is one of those players, and the truth of the matter is, just like any team that would have him, we are not goign to give him up. So, of the above characteristics, you are goign to have to settle on atleast 3 of them, one of them is goig to be off. So, the us as posters need to lighten up and see that, we have to take the good with the bad, this isnt a perfect world, players have fllaws, some of them in the relm of their control (chronic injury proness) some of them out of their control, (age or attitude problem).
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Old 06-12-2006, 03:16 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Joel Pryzilba (sp) on the Trail Blazers. This guy is a great defender.
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well this thread got off track, so lemme get it back on track, with some controversial. There isnt a perfect player in this league,

who isnt earning a bunch of money,
who is young,
who doesnt have an attitude problem, and
isnt injury prone.

Fortunately for us, our franchise player is one of those players, and the truth of the matter is, just like any team that would have him, we are not goign to give him up. So, of the above characteristics, you are goign to have to settle on atleast 3 of them, one of them is goig to be off. So, the us as posters need to lighten up and see that, we have to take the good with the bad, this isnt a perfect world, players have fllaws, some of them in the relm of their control (chronic injury proness) some of them out of their control, (age or attitude problem).

out of the four, the one quality I would least like to see in a player we acquire is injury prone. Bad attitude is the second worst one that list but I dont think there are that many players in the NBA that was a bad enough attitude to ruin our team chemistry
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:15 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I'd rather have a star 1 than a star 5.
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Realistically...

1) Draft: Anyone at the top because none of them fill our needs. I'd be happy with Aldridge, Bargnani, Morrison, or Gay. I was more of an Aldridge man myself, but I'm starting to like Morrison (the bangwagon is contagious I tell you). Gay would be my top choice pending amazing workouts.

2) Center: Ben Wallace. He's exactly what we need. Keep him around for 3-4 years and overpay if necessary. I can justify giving him 4-5 million more than Przy or Nazr because he's going to play the full season instead of half. He's obviously slowing down, but not at a rapid rate. The way he's taking care of himself, he should be a starter until he retires.

3) Point Guard: Brevin Knight. Realistically, he's our best option for a pass-first point guard without giving up any of our big assets. He's a decent defensive player and we have plenty of shooters on this team to make up for his lack of range. By the time his contract expires, either Calderon or Ukic or both should be capable starters. Maybe we can get him for dirt cheap?

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8 Jose Calderon

I'd be very content with that line-up.
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Old 06-12-2006, 05:31 PM   #40 (permalink)
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out of the four, the one quality I would least like to see in a player we acquire is injury prone. Bad attitude is the second worst one that list but I dont think there are that many players in the NBA that was a bad enough attitude to ruin our team chemistry
yah i gotta agree with that, although its truly a toss up, injuries arent really a quality, even tho i mentioned them, sometimes they are chronic and freak injuries, which there is truly nothign u can do about them, while a bad attitude, can drop the morale of ur whole team, and get player to side with players, creating a rift between coaching staff and players.

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2) Center: Ben Wallace. He's exactly what we need. Keep him around for 3-4 years and overpay if necessary. I can justify giving him 4-5 million more than Przy or Nazr because he's going to play the full season instead of half. He's obviously slowing down, but not at a rapid rate. The way he's taking care of himself, he should be a starter until he retires.

3) Point Guard: Brevin Knight. Realistically, he's our best option for a pass-first point guard without giving up any of our big assets. He's a decent defensive player and we have plenty of shooters on this team to make up for his lack of range. By the time his contract expires, either Calderon or Ukic or both should be capable starters. Maybe we can get him for dirt cheap?
repped, Ben Wallace is the answer. Although, if we get Ben i would like us to get more of an offensive PG, rather then a pure passer. Someone like TJ, who can score when at will, but also looks to pass.
Plus, i think its one or the other, is Brevin Knight an FA? cuz if he is, then its either him or Ben, who will prolly eat up most of our cap space.
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repped, Ben Wallace is the answer. Although, if we get Ben i would like us to get more of an offensive PG, rather then a pure passer. Someone like TJ, who can score when at will, but also looks to pass.
Plus, i think its one or the other, is Brevin Knight an FA? cuz if he is, then its either him or Ben, who will prolly eat up most of our cap space.
Ford is actually one of my top choices for PGs available. I love his game. I can't see Milwaukee giving him up, though. They're going to try and solve their PF problem by trading either Magloire, Mo Williams, or both.

Brevin Knight isn't a free agent. Supposedly Charlotte is shopping him around since Felton exploded. We'd be giving CHA a contract or two back so we could still sign Big Ben.
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the problem is that ben is definetly not worth 3-4 years of 10-12 million per season. his horrendous offense will screw us over late in ball games and he disappears during the playoffs.. wats up with that?
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the problem is that ben is definetly not worth 3-4 years of 10-12 million per season. his horrendous offense will screw us over late in ball games and he disappears during the playoffs.. wats up with that?
Ben Wallace is worth every penny he ever earned in this leauge. He'll also be worth every penny he makes for here on out, you can't pay him enough.

Back on topic:
1. Andris Biedrens

2. Marcus Williams

Trade down to Golden state for Andris Biedrens.
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the problem is that ben is definetly not worth 3-4 years of 10-12 million per season. his horrendous offense will screw us over late in ball games and he disappears during the playoffs.. wats up with that?
are you telling me his offense is worse then that of Pape Sow/Araujo or even Matt Bonner, who were our 3 primary centers? Our MAIN problem was not getting a stop in crunch time, he solves that problem. Guys can be more risky with their defense, b/c they no if a guy is going to beat them, then Ben will likely bail them out.
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