View Poll Results: does CB4 have presure to produce now that d.wade has won it all
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06-21-2006, 09:54 AM
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#16 (permalink)
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Hoops Junkie
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
Picking a player that is an allstar within three seasons is fantastic . . . it doesn't matter who else could have been picked . . . the point of a draft is to get very talented players, not that everyone looses that didn't get the best player in the draft.
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06-21-2006, 10:20 AM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
as some have already mentioned, if it puts pressure on anyone it'd be lebron and melo ahead of chris. and even then... only one team can win the title per year. that's just the way it is. do they have to win their championships in order since they were drafted in order? unfortunately we don't live in a computer.
the most important point is, imo, that not all conditions were held equal for all players. i mean, wade had the benefit of some 'things', i reckon, whereas he might not have had to deal with the pressures/pains of some other things. in other words, we're not comparing apples to apples here, at least not imo. had chris bosh played with the heat, who knows? maybe they would've won the title anyway. maybe they would've won the title last year, too. had dwyane been the two guard for us, who's to say he wouldn't have been battling jalen, vince, mop and others (iguodala- should've gone on a 2 guard draft rampage) for playing time? who knows?
dwyane won last night, and he was excellent. one of the brightest finals stars i've seen in awhile. i like virtually everything about this guy, so much so that it didn't really bother me much to see his teammates walk away with rings (namely mourning and payton). but to try to drown chris (and/or lebron and/or melo) in negative energy less than 24 hours after the fact is unnecessary. not everyone can win the title every year. does chris feel the pressure? i should hope so, but it's the same pressure he would've faced had nowitzki won the title (would we have then gotten the "look at josh howard- does that put pressure on lebron, melo, chris and dwyane?" questions?).
chris'll get his, no doubt. but i don't think he has any more pressure on himself this morning than he had last week. he's focused already. as fans, i feel we should just enjoy the dawn of the d-wade era in this league- kids'll probably be asking us down the road, "do you remember...."
this is special, y'all. we should take it all in. superstars aren't made overnight like this very often. it's a good time to be a fan- then when you consider the state of our team, it's a great time to be a fan. it's tough to justify any sort of negative energy right now.
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06-21-2006, 11:48 AM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
stop blaming the refs, the mavs didnt complain after game 6, maybe game 5. Bottom line whats done is done. Not everyone is happy with the heat winning, but its over. Deal with it, and stop being babies. D-Wade put his talking on the floor and won it.
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06-21-2006, 11:50 AM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
Id say it puts pressure on lebron, i guess. I dont really see the connection between wade and bosh. We picked bosh, get over it. LAME THREAD.
PS, Dwade is now officially the most overated player of all time. Hes a great player, and a star, but its getting way out of hand. Wade's game is pleasing to watch and exciting, but it isn without flaws. He can hit big shots, but his midrange game isnt what it should be, especially for an undersized 2 guard. It will be interesting to see if wade is still being compared to MJ (LOL) when shaq retires and defenses can focus on stopping him.
Lebron is better than wade, people need to settle down.
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06-21-2006, 11:54 AM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
I think it maybe puts pressure on LeBron. At least, in the eyes in some fans. Not me, so I don't really buy into that. Some great players don't win rings until the middle or end of their careers so it's no big deal. Some greats never even get to go to a NBA Finals. So, you never know.
It's not just that Wade's team won the ring, it's how he helped them. Scoring 40+ (almost) in their last 4 games, and scoring so efficiently is impressive, don't care who you are or what team you on. That's good.
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06-21-2006, 12:41 PM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
I would think being dubbed the franchise player and about to be paid like one is enough pressure to win as it is...
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06-21-2006, 02:32 PM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
I really dont get how some people are regreting not drafting wade. When he was drafted, he seemed like a 6'4 vince carter (favorable). Why would the raptors draft him when they had a 4 which filled a glaring need at the time. People forget that bosh was widely regarded as the superior player. So, to draft wade the raptors would have had to overlook a higher ranked prospect that filled a need. That doesnt happen. At the time of the draft. bosh was being called the next KG and wade was an undersized 2 guard. Stop with the Bosh vs Wade bull****. Some people are whiney friggin babies. If you want to whine about something, how about Hoffa over Iggy.
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06-21-2006, 02:33 PM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
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Originally Posted by Budweiser_Boy
I kinda worry about the Toronto media making an issue about this. You never know what ridiculous articles they'll be pulling out of their asses now that Wade's won an MVP and Bosh hasn't. Kinda like how they kept bringing up Iggy over Hoffa.
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Was that the media or quite a few people on the board who loved Jesus Iguodala.
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06-21-2006, 02:42 PM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
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Originally Posted by Budweiser_Boy
I kinda worry about the Toronto media making an issue about this. You never know what ridiculous articles they'll be pulling out of their asses now that Wade's won an MVP and Bosh hasn't. Kinda like how they kept bringing up Iggy over Hoffa.
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No, hoffa over iggy is a legitimite complaint. People that cry about bosh over wade are either very "casual" fans that just started watching basketball last month or complete losers.
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06-21-2006, 02:45 PM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
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Originally Posted by mo76
No, hoffa over iggy is a legitimite complaint. People that cry about bosh over wade are either very "casual" fans that just started watching basketball last month or complete losers.
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What you said just describes most Toronto sports journalists 
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06-21-2006, 03:05 PM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
the hoffa draft was weak, u cant blame them for that pick. The d-wade and bosh draft is one of the most talented dratfs in NBA history.
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06-21-2006, 03:14 PM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
No, people don't expect Bosh to be on Wade/James' level.
Big men take more time.
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06-21-2006, 03:21 PM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
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Originally Posted by Pain5155
the hoffa draft was weak, u cant blame them for that pick. The d-wade and bosh draft is one of the most talented dratfs in NBA history.
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No, it wasnt. Yes, you can blame them for that pick. WTF are you talking about?
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06-21-2006, 06:05 PM
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Re: does d. wade winning MVP and NBA title put presure on CB4 to win here in TO?
i agree with most of you who say that where bosh was drafted was not up to him, and this is not really a fair comparison with the team that d.wade had and the one that cb4 had...
this question was not directed from a casual fan point of view or media influenced, it was directed from bosh's point of view being in a draft where 4 of the top 5 picks are franchise players who the organization is building around, this must put presure on him to achieve the same outcome on HIS team...
the top five from that draft (minus darko) must all feel presure as "franchise" players to achieve the same goal...
would i pose the same question in regards to mo pete or joey graham as examples?...no, cause they are not franchise players nor will they ever be...
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