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06-29-2006, 07:35 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
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i dont know if this a guy going to be a shut down defender that ppl are envisioning
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I don't think anybody's envisioning him as a shutdown defender, at least not right away, anyway. He's a decent enough scorer, he's got tremendous hustle, he's a great rebounder, he's a good, but not great, defender. If we'd wanted a shutdown defender specialist, we should have gotten a guy like Corey Belser or Mardy Collins.
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06-29-2006, 07:41 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
Personally I think there has to be some sort of a deal in the making, especially if Garbajosa (sp?) is going to be signed. I don't see how there will be enough minutes to go around in this lineup. I agree with whoever said that Charlie will probably get 30+ minutes at the 3, and considering that Bargs and Garbajosa might get some as well, that does not leave much room for Joey, hence meaning he'd have to learn to play the 2 and earn his minutes there. Now bring Tucker and Ukic into that situation and I see absolutely no way how everyone will be happy with the minutes they'll get. Taking that into account I think there has to be another deal....otherwise it would make no sense imo.
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06-29-2006, 07:54 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
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Now bring Tucker and Ukic into that situation and I see absolutely no way how everyone will be happy with the minutes they'll get.
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I think everyone is overestimating how big a contribution our rookies and even sophmores are going to make. Historically, most rookies make very little contribution. Also, I'm still skeptical that Ukic is going to be a regular contributor, short of rumours before he was drafted, I've seen very little evidence that he's an NBA-calibre player.
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06-29-2006, 08:34 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
if you havent read this before, heres a real good write-up that i just read on pj that i think you guys will enjoy... jon g has real high praise for the guy...
http://www.truehoop.com/2006-draft-2...pj-tucker.html
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06-29-2006, 08:41 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
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Thanks for the link, reading the A&M story shifted my view quite a bit. Tough MF.
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06-29-2006, 03:01 PM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
You guys know I was pimping Tucker around these parts since March.
This guy will make the team.
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06-29-2006, 06:47 PM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
Great pick by the Raptors. We need a player like this, who is tough and can really rebound. In his Junior year as a Longhorn, he averaged 9.5 rebounds, that's a great stat for a guy his size (6'5")...He and Joey G will probably be competing for PT come training camp.
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06-30-2006, 06:19 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
Well, he's 225 pounds of solid muscle, and has a mean streak I haven't really seen in Joey Graham.
He scored as well as Graham did in college, and rebounded, passed better, with more steals.
He has a 7 foot wingspan. He rebounds. I am not convinced you can teach rebounding. Sure you can teach techniques, which can help alot. But this guy REBOUNDS. Shots that don't go in end up in his hands. HE OUTREBOUNDED LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE.
I believe we are talking about a Bonzi Wells / Ruben Patterson type. A steal at #35.
Of note - 14 double-doubles last season. In his last 13 games, he scored in double figures in every game AND had 4 or more assists 8 times.
He slipped because he doesn't fit the mold. The guy is a player.
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06-30-2006, 08:29 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
Wow, I just checked out his stats. Very impressive.
On the same team:
Aldridge 15.0 ppg, 9.2 rbg, 0.5 apg
Tucker 16.1 ppg, 9.5 rbg, 2.7 apg
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06-30-2006, 08:36 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
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I don't think anybody's envisioning him as a shutdown defender, at least not right away, anyway. He's a decent enough scorer, he's got tremendous hustle, he's a great rebounder, he's a good, but not great, defender. If we'd wanted a shutdown defender specialist, we should have gotten a guy like Corey Belser or Mardy Collins.
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mardy collins wasn't available at our pick. and i don't kno enough about corey belser to comment about him. but supposedly bobby jones is a lock down defender as well.. they don't always pan out 2 be.
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06-30-2006, 08:37 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
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Well, he's 225 pounds of solid muscle, and has a mean streak I haven't really seen in Joey Graham.
He scored as well as Graham did in college, and rebounded, passed better, with more steals.
He has a 7 foot wingspan. He rebounds. I am not convinced you can teach rebounding. Sure you can teach techniques, which can help alot. But this guy REBOUNDS. Shots that don't go in end up in his hands. HE OUTREBOUNDED LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE.
I believe we are talking about a Bonzi Wells / Ruben Patterson type. A steal at #35.
Of note - 14 double-doubles last season. In his last 13 games, he scored in double figures in every game AND had 4 or more assists 8 times.
He slipped because he doesn't fit the mold. The guy is a player.
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rich mans Reggie Evans anyone?
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Humpty Dumpty fell down, that's his hard time.
Jack B. Nimble, what, nimble, and he was quick,
but Jam Master was faster, Jack saw Jay's dick.
Now little Bo Peep cold lost her sheep
and Rip van Winkle fell the hell asleep.
And Alice stilled her hunger in Wonderland"
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06-30-2006, 10:11 AM
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Re: Official: Toronto selects PJ Tucker 35th overall
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mardy collins wasn't available at our pick. and i don't kno enough about corey belser to comment about him. but supposedly bobby jones is a lock down defender as well.. they don't always pan out 2 be.
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I said "like" Mardy Collins or Corey Belser. Those were just two names off the top of my head who came closest to fitting into the lock down defender category, which PJ Tucker doesn't (at least, not now, anyway).
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