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cv3bandwagon · 07-02-2006, 12:15 PM

Don't forget for the first month or two of the season Ford was averaging close to 10 assit's a game. Until his injury he was averaged around 8-8. Then after that his numbers went down. I'd expect around a reasonable 8 a game.

**roux2dope** · 07-02-2006, 01:02 PM

TJ is a career 40% shooter, and the majority of his baskets are lay ups, he might pass a bit more because I dont think toronto will let him shoot as much as stotts let him in milwaukee, I am a life long bucks fan, and I think he is overrated due to his lack of height "6'0" tall, his assist to to rate is abysmal at about 2-1, and he will always give up more points than he scores every night. Mo Williams was just as good off the bench last year.

Fords numbers 12.2 points and 6.6 assists 41.6% from the field
Williams numbers 12 points 4 assist 42% from the field

Williams is a much better shooter despite similar shooting percentages and he won two games at the buzzer last year. They were basically interchangable. Good job larry harris for picking the guy that was there for you in the 4th quarter over TJ "First Half Stud" Ford I bet you Toronto fans didnt know that ford would sit the bench in the 4th when they were up MO was a better shooter and when they were dow Bell was a better defender. You made it possible for us to trade Magloire now, and our pg situation while not sexy, was not hurt. Thanks For Charlie he will look good next to Bogut for the next 5-10 years

trick · 07-02-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by roux2dope

TJ is a career 40% shooter, and the majority of his baskets are lay ups, he might pass a bit more because I dont think toronto will let him shoot as much as stotts let him in milwaukee, I am a life long bucks fan, and I think he is overrated due to his lack of height "6'0" tall, his assist to to rate is abysmal at about 2-1, and he will always give up more points than he scores every night. Mo Williams was just as good off the bench last year.

Fords numbers 12.2 points and 6.6 assists 41.6% from the field
Williams numbers 12 points 4 assist 42% from the field

Williams is a much better shooter despite similar shooting percentages and he won two games at the buzzer last year. They were basically interchangable. Good job larry harris for picking the guy that was there for you in the 4th quarter over TJ "First Half Stud" Ford I bet you Toronto fans didnt know that ford would sit the bench in the 4th when they were up MO was a better shooter and when they were dow Bell was a better defender. You made it possible for us to trade Magloire now, and our pg situation while not sexy, was not hurt. Thanks For Charlie he will look good next to Bogut for the next 5-10 years

But...but...but...he passes first. Who cares about his lack of shooting ability, his lack of height nor his inability to defend well anyone past 3 or 4 inches hist height. All that's important is that he passes first...oh, I almost forgot he makes our depth chart look much sexier.

**roux2dope** · 07-02-2006, 03:07 PM

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But...but...but...he passes first. Who cares about his lack of shooting ability, his lack of height nor his inability to defend well anyone past 3 or 4 inches hist height. All that's important is that he passes first...oh, I almost forgot he makes our depth chart look much sexier.

Fine you can have sexiness, but in my opinion his one dimensional game is nothing to be excited about. Whoo he passes first and fails at all other aspects of the game.. Thats a brilliant way to view it...

buckaroo · 07-02-2006, 03:08 PM

Colangelo must see TJ Ford as a mini-Nash type of PG who will push the ball fast up the court and into the hands of MoPete, Bosh, Bargnani, Graham, PJ Tucker(?) who are all slashers to the basket as well as pull up shooters.

I think we should start to think of the new edition Raptors as modelled against the PHX Suns style of run and gun basketball then we will better understand what Colangelo is doing. Also the hiring of Gherardini can only mean more Euro ballers coming to Toronto.

The Raptors are going to be an explosive team once they get it all together and Colangelo will be the architect of it all.

trick · 07-02-2006, 03:09 PM

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Thats a brilliant way to view it...

Well it's either ***** and moan about it on these boards for the next 10 months and have everyone hate or me, or just conform to the masses...and personally, I'm very sensitive to how people view me.

**Ruff Draft** · 07-02-2006, 03:17 PM

16/8/3

icehawk · 07-02-2006, 03:44 PM

His shooting has only been getting better, but still only mediocre at best.

His playmaking is very good, but slighty overrated.

One of the fastest ballers in the league.

14 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds.

Brown_Balla · 07-02-2006, 04:27 PM

TJ ford will have a breakout season with double double numbers.. say 13 ppg and 10 apg?

**speedythief** · 07-02-2006, 05:01 PM

TJ averaged 8 assists in his two years at Texas. I don't think it is unrealistic to see him get around that in the NBA supposing our team is as successful offensively as we were last season.

neoxsupreme · 07-02-2006, 06:32 PM

I have as high hopes for him as being the 2nd or 3rd league leader in assists this yr. Nash will obviously be 1st & I see Paul improving from last yr so I'm guessing he will be 2nd. Ford will be 3rd. Those are my top 3 assist men for next season.

My stats projections for TJ:
12 ppg, 8.8 apg, 3.9 rpg, 1.5 spg.

Team Mao · 07-02-2006, 06:47 PM

With Bosh and Bargnani both drawing big men out of the lane on defense, I expect TJ to be able to drive the lane much more than he could in Milwaukee playing with big men who stick close to the basket (Bogut being the exception). IMO, this will lead to increased production in both points and assists as it puts the opposing defense in a difficult position, does the big man rotate to defend the drive and go for a blocked shot, leaving Bosh or Bargnani open for the dish? Or do they stay at home on Bosh/Bargs allowing TJ to get to the hoop for the basket or the foul?

TJ's shooting is not great, it's been discussed to death. But with his quickness, he can get around the pick quick enough to put the big man switching on his heels; another opportunity to take it to the rack or a swing man rotating to help, leaving Peterson alone in his office or maybe Graham for an elbow or baseline jumper.

There are many other ways that he's going to put defenses in difficult positions with his quickness and ballhandling. We had a really quick PG last year, but the problem was that opposing defenses knew that he didn't want to pass, once that head went down, everyone knew what he was going to do. And even when he did pass, the passes were off target with players reaching to catch the pass, giving the defense that split second to get there to contest shots. The difference with TJ is that he seems to have good court vision and enjoys making passes, playing with a really good friend of his is sure to help too.

I wouldn't be surprised to see numbers along the lines of 16ppg and 9apg.

NeoSamurai · 07-02-2006, 07:22 PM

i'd say 15pts and 8 to 9 assists per...

with having Bosh and Bargnani and their ability to stick the 20 footer, they'll more than likely run that pick-n-roll play that Sam seems to run a lot on offense. even if TJ isnt a good shooter, he has the ability to penetrate to the basket for a layup or break down a defense and find the open man after defenders collapse due to his quickness - this will happen a lot considering the pick-n-roll scenario and the fact that opposing 4s and 5s will be away from the basket having to guard Bosh and/or Bargnani's ability to hit a shot.

all signs point to a breakout season for TJ, or at least a better statistical one...whether or not that will translate to more wins is a whole different question...

**bigbabyjesus** · 07-02-2006, 07:31 PM

15 points, 9 assists, 5 rebounds, 1.5 steals, in 36 minutes.

and on his way onto becoming of the premier points in the league.

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