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The Mad Viking · 07-11-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Benis007

meh, i have given up on Woods. i would rather sign another younger scrub to play some minutes. with mago's apparent lack of rebounding ability i would like to get a big body on the bench that is going to be good in limited minutes.

hopefully bryan c can find this offseason's Diop.

Jamal Sampson is that man. Very young, but high energy rebounder and shot blocker. Gadzuric type. Available cheap. Can run and jump. I wouldn'tbe surprised if BC finds him- two years ago, I wanted the raps to pick up Steven Hunter. BC signed him in Phoenix, where he backed up Amare, and we got Loren Woods. meh.

Loren Woods can't jump and has hands of stone.... No, that is an insult to stone. Plus he blanks out regularly. I wouldn't resign Woods if he was the last 7-footer on earth.

Parker does NOT have NBA range on his jumper. He is money from 18 feet and in, and I think this is a good thing. You need a player with a nice mid-range game. He can get his own shot off, like MJ. Defends well, is a real ballhawk, plays well without the ball, rebounds, has better handles than Mo. Really a good pickup.

I think Garbajosa will be a Bonner like shooter and hustler, but with much better handles. Not sure he will be worth $3+M in the NBA, but we will see. He is absolutely a BALLPLAYER. His 3point shot is effortless, with a low release and very little motion, like a free throw. So he gets it off quick, but never shoots it contested. He has very strong hands and I think will have little adjustment to stepping back 3 feet.

crimedog · 07-11-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mad Viking

Parker does NOT have NBA range on his jumper. He is money from 18 feet and in, and I think this is a good thing. You need a player with a nice mid-range game. He can get his own shot off, like MJ. Defends well, is a real ballhawk, plays well without the ball, rebounds, has better handles than Mo. Really a good pickup.

I think Garbajosa will be a Bonner like shooter and hustler, but with much better handles. Not sure he will be worth $3+M in the NBA, but we will see. He is absolutely a BALLPLAYER. His 3point shot is effortless, with a low release and very little motion, like a free throw. So he gets it off quick, but never shoots it contested. He has very strong hands and I think will have little adjustment to stepping back 3 feet.

no offence, but how do you know this stuff?

sounds great, so i hope you're right.

neltron3030 · 07-11-2006, 02:32 PM

I bet Elson gets overpaid...I bet he inks a four year, $16M contract somewhere. I don't think its worth it.

martymar · 07-11-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Flush

The jury is still out on this signing.

remaining cap room?

that's what we were paying Mike James and he opt out

**speedythief** · 07-11-2006, 04:57 PM

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of signing two hungry players to small-to-medium sized deals than signing one player to a big deal and having unrealistic expectations as a result.

Hopefully Parker returns to the NBA with a fire inside to prove his worth. Hopefully Garbajosa wants to prove himself equally as much. Could work out well for us.

Team Mao · 07-11-2006, 09:30 PM

Initially I was really skeptical about Colangelo not signing a big name player, but now that I think about it more I'm starting to accept it. I think the key is that Colangelo is really trying to build a TEAM and not just go after the best individual talent and throw it together hoping it sticks (see: Knicks). He's been preaching about European players and their tendency to be more team-oriented for some time now.

Also, I'm sure Gheradini has more insight on Garbajosa and Parker in terms of game but also in terms of attitude and how they fit within a team. Most of us have only seen highlight packages or maybe a few games, we have no idea about their personality on and off the court. This, IMO, is just as important as their talent level in terms of putting a team together. Obviously, Colangelo and Gheradini see these guys as important pieces to the puzzle.

We have our 3 stars Bosh, Ford and (hopefully) Bargnani; it appears now that BC and Maurizio are finding the players that compliment them and each other in the best possible way. Are they the biggest names? No. Will the press start writing off the Raptors before the season even begins because of their inability to bring in the big name? You can count on it. Will Colangelo's plan work? Who knows, but I've got a good feeling about the way things are going.

pmac34 · 07-11-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Mao

Initially I was really skeptical about Colangelo not signing a big name player, but now that I think about it more I'm starting to accept it. I think the key is that Colangelo is really trying to build a TEAM and not just go after the best individual talent and throw it together hoping it sticks (see: Knicks). He's been preaching about European players and their tendency to be more team-oriented for some time now.

Also, I'm sure Gheradini has more insight on Garbajosa and Parker in terms of game but also in terms of attitude and how they fit within a team. Most of us have only seen highlight packages or maybe a few games, we have no idea about their personality on and off the court. This, IMO, is just as important as their talent level in terms of putting a team together. Obviously, Colangelo and Gheradini see these guys as important pieces to the puzzle.

We have our 3 stars Bosh, Ford and (hopefully) Bargnani; it appears now that BC and Maurizio are finding the players that compliment them and each other in the best possible way. Are they the biggest names? No. Will the press start writing off the Raptors before the season even begins because of their inability to bring in the big name? You can count on it. Will Colangelo's plan work? Who knows, but I've got a good feeling about the way things are going.

good post

flushingflash · 07-11-2006, 10:24 PM

i have faith in colangelo. the man does not make any rash decisions and seems to have things planned out.

undefined_playa · 07-11-2006, 11:41 PM

what about Ukic though? I thought he was coming back this year

shookem · 07-12-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by undefined_playa

what about Ukic though? I thought he was coming back this year

Nope. He was brought in by Babs. I expect him to be traded or released soon.

johny_vor · 07-12-2006, 08:12 AM

Maccabi Tel-Aviv's gaurd for the last 5 years who won with them 3 european championships has now signed a contract with Atlanta. that will improve the back line of the team. AP has a sepurb shooting absolutely incredimble defence. he was named MVP 2 times!!

he's 31 now yet he has alot on him, if Atlanta would know how to play the cards right, he night be very usefull.

neltron3030 · 07-12-2006, 08:23 AM

Why does everyone think Roko is going to come to the NBA? He is a back-up guard in the Euroleague, how is he supposed to come to the NBA and make a significant contribution?

Averages
14:35 mins, 4.4 points, 42.0% FG, 18.9% 3PT FG, 70.5% FT, 1.2 rebs, 1.8 ast, 0.4 stl.

http://www.euroleague.net/plantillas/jugador.jsp?id=CJA

He was a high risk second rounder and I would get rid of him for any NBA player that could act as an 11 or 12 man.

wind161 · 07-12-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by johny_vor

Maccabi Tel-Aviv's gaurd for the last 5 years who won with them 3 european championships has now signed a contract with Atlanta. that will improve the back line of the team. AP has a sepurb shooting absolutely incredimble defence. he was named MVP 2 times!!

he's 31 now yet he has alot on him, if Atlanta would know how to play the cards right, he night be very usefull.

Atlanta?!!?! Source please!

jdlhi · 07-12-2006, 08:33 AM

Is it 100% he signed in atlanta

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