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I'd more worry about Bargnani being another Darko in this case, being ignored and looked down upon by his own team until he gets traded. I can't believe how many people are writing Bargs off already.

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bigbabyjesus

do you remember dirk in his rookie season?

oh, okay. thought so.

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TRON

This is Bosh's team and it's nice to see our franchise player actually care about the play of other team mates, as long as it's constructive critisicm and it's in the best interest of improving Bargnani as a player.

I remember our last franchise player, and he probably wouldn't have been to bothered over the defensive lapses of other teammates.

Bargnani will be fine in time, but this year will be all about adjusting to the NBA game. He's gonna struggle on the defensive end, and will pick up many stupid fouls for sure, I just want to see some improvement by the end of the year.

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jibe

barg was gonna be a starter after the draft an now he is a project. a nomber 1 pick is not supposd to be a project. if he dont step up on this road trip bench him and let him learn in practise. an garbo had better pick up his play or he is benched too. these two bums had better produce or else colenglo an gherardi are gonna look stupid.

Crossword

They seemed to be getting along fine tonight when they played together.

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JuniorNoboa

Better yet had he ever heard of him during his rookie season. He was just a nobody rookie on a crappy team, that had been traded for Robert Traylor.

Dallas was not even on TV when Dirk was a rookie. I'm calling you out on that comment, and you can't defend it because:
a) you never saw Dirk as a rookie
b) while I never really saw him either the stories / writeups about him were brutal. He was lost.

Kahlon66

Dirk was not a #1 pick as was Bargnani. There's a big difference in that. Bargnani as a number 1 overall pick should be much more NBA ready than Dirk was when he came in as a rookie.

lucky777s

I think that logic is flawed. It presumes that the #1 overall pick HAS to be used on the best player TODAY with no regard to future value and ability.

If a team was able to draft 15 year old Lebron James but be forced to wait a couple of years for him to play in the league would that be a bad #1 pick? The Spurs knew they had to wait for David Robinson to fulfill his Navy commitments.

Every team gets 1 first round pick. In a sense it doesnt matter what number your pick is. You get the best player for the LT success of your franchise.

SickGame

A) Dirk's draft class was much better than Bargnani's
B) The European explosion/expansion wasn't at full effect like it is today, therefore drafting a European player back then was much more obscure and riskier, therefore harder to make him a higher pick than he was.

Dirk was BRUTAL in his first year. Anyone who though that Bargnani was going to be an effective starter in his first year had to be out of their mind. It wasn't like he was lighting up the Italian League when he was abroad. The kid is an obvious project and always was going to be.
And I'm not sure why everyone is panicking. Look at this year's draft, it isn't like the rookies are lighting up either. Morrison and Roy are the only ones averaging over 10 points (11.8 and 11.6 respectively) and no one is having a major impact on their teams except for Roy (whom we all knew was the most NBA ready player in the draft, yet the one that had the least potential out of the lottery picks).
On top of this, all these players are getting major minutes (18-25 min) either because of team injuries or the lack of depth on the team. Unfortunately for Barganani, not only are the Raptors deep and there are no injuries, he has to adjust to the game meaning that he picks up quick fouls that he's not used to.
I really don't understand why everyone is jumping the gun after 6 games. Let's see how he does after he gets 3-4 games of major burn.

firstrounder

For those that just saw that, theres your televised evidence. Bosh is laying into Bargnani in the Golden State game.

Thats exactly what I saw happen at the game vs Atlanta.

speedythief

^ Leadership?

firstrounder

To be honest, I dont know what to think.

Yes, I want Bosh to show leadership, but I think he might be overdoing it there.

Thats to the point of embarassment to Bargnani.

I dont see Bosh freaking at TJ everytime he throws a ball away, or at anyone else.

Our troubles can hardly be blamed on Bargs.

Bargs has been crap, he deserves to be yelled at by Bosh, but I'd like to see Bosh take him aside instead of showing him up.

Perhaps that talk should take place in the locker room?

speedythief

^ Bargs has been coddled his pro career so far. Maybe hugging him isn't going to get it done.

Personally I'm thrilled that Bosh is doing this. This is the vocal leadership everyone has been waiting on. Bosh is refusing to lose, he cares, this is passion.

Feud? Pfft. That's crap.

speedythief

Just showed a clip of Bosh patting Bargs on the backside and putting his head on his shoulder a little while after calling him out.

That's tough love, baby.

Bosh is my hero.

adhir1

i hope u saw the exeunt into the commercial where Bosh went to Bargs and showed him some love firstrounder...Bosh is the leader of this team..this is HIS team...he is not the type of player to dig into a player and embarass him...it was of a "comeon dre.....u need to get on those, dont let him beat you" type things rather then, "wtf is wrong with u euro trash"