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11-29-2006, 09:05 PM
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dis me to my face!
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
After going 0-5 on our last road trip, going 1-1 this time around doesn't feel too bad.
Jersey beat Boston tonight, and somehow the Knicks beat Cleveland.
Our division is still very interchangeable.
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11-29-2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
blow out loss... =/
but hey... we keep the 3pt streak alive thanks to Dmart. Haha.
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11-29-2006, 09:34 PM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
crap. =(
At least Darrick Martin kept the streak alive though! 
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11-29-2006, 10:08 PM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
I thought Bargs looked good tonight. Only one TO and perfect FT shooting in career high minutes. Besides Bosh and TJ, Andrea was on the court more than any other Raptor.
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11-29-2006, 10:55 PM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
its the mavs I ain't mad over this loss
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11-29-2006, 11:27 PM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
Too bad they have to play the 4th quarter.
Beating the Mavs was a remote possibility. I'm glad they stayed in the game after that awful start. Bargnani looked good to me again.
My usual announcer quote: the Mavs announcers are much worse than I remember. How annoying.
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11-29-2006, 11:33 PM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
Fred Jones with Zero shot attempts, Wow thats a first
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11-30-2006, 06:04 AM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
pretty much the opposite of last game vs NO/OK we had absolutly no defense it was discusting, imagine if Dirk had played  . Thank god for D-Mart tho i would've been upset if it ended in a game like that.
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11-30-2006, 09:12 AM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
We aren't as good as we looked versus a weakend NOK team that struggles to score, and we aren't as bad as we looked against a powerful DAL team minus Dirk.
TJ sucked both games, and the starters struggle as a result. How many more games til this guy feels 'comfortable' with his teammates? He has no clue how to run an offense. He gets into the lane and gets stuck, has to float horrible passes to the 3pt land that frequently go out of bounds.
Bosh is becoming a real machine out there. Gets it done every night. And Bargs is improving rapidly with increased minutes, as he did in Europe.
Joey is doing better, cutting to the hoop without the ball, but his dribble drives are still way too stiff and he is a straight line player.
Thought Rasho should have started against the power of Dampier.
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11-30-2006, 09:19 AM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
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TJ sucked both games, and the starters struggle as a result. How many more games til this guy feels 'comfortable' with his teammates? He has no clue how to run an offense. He gets into the lane and gets stuck, has to float horrible passes to the 3pt land that frequently go out of bounds.
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11-30-2006, 10:06 AM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
these unceremonious blowouts that show up every week or two are probably the toughest to take during a rebuilding phase. i'm glad we went into it having won two in a row or it likely could've felt even worse.
i think the thing that pains me the most about it/them is the confidence we seem to infuse in our opponents. i don't know where it comes from but it's consistent: there's something about us that settles 'them' down in some games. i'm not talking about the good run/bad run patterns that define the sport of basketball, there's something there (imo) that is specific to toronto raptors/mediocre team basketball on certain days that drowns us over like a monstrous wave, whether we're on the road to improvement or not.
in the dallas game, i just don't know how they were hitting all those shots. they were progressively more wide open as the game went along, true, but even early on they were knocking them down at what seemed like a furious pace. what made it worse (these are the sorts of things that eat you alive) was that they transferred that confidence to the boards, so when they did miss a deep three, they'd have one or two bodies down low to gobble up the rebound and start again.
at some point in the third quarter, i swear it felt like they scored on 10-12 straight possessions. they weren't 10/10 or 12/12 from the field, but they seemed to be getting all the offensive rebounds they needed to get to keep the possession alive until they could score. frustrating stuff.
i wish we had more of a plan to deal with that. i think 'good' coaching is related to coming up with said plan. there are also some players in the league who have a reply, who recognize those phony periods of confidence on the part of their opponent and do the things they need to do to end them, but it doesn't look like we have any of those players yet (imo). and i'm not talking about all-stars. it's more savvy vets (or savvy kids) who play on a higher level of some kind, even with their limited skillsets of talent. we could've had an all-star team on the floor last night and i'm sure josh howard and jerry stackhouse would've hardly noticed. it would've had less to do with them than it would have had to do with us. there's something there. i guess that's rebuilding in a nutshell: improving your own mind and confidence, as well as improving your chances vs your opponent by limiting the explosion of confidence in their collective mind.
ooh... the psychology. not exciting.
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11-30-2006, 10:38 AM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
Ballocks,
We definitely saw the same thing last year, and possibly Sam's first year as well. Teams have been coming out shooting 60+ % against us in the first five minutes of games for a long time. It was just amazing to watch EVERY single team come out hot against us.
I mean, even if the shots are wide open you would expect a few teams to have off nights. But they didn't. The J's were like layups.
Teams expect to beat us. Good teams know they should beat us. Bad teams know this is one of their better chances to get a win. And I think teams like playing in front of good crowds at the ACC. Not too hostile.
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11-30-2006, 02:02 PM
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Re: Raptors @ Mavericks, Nov. 29th
DMart's last second 3 was one of the biggest clutch shots in Raptors history. Quick, name a more memorable shot....
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11-30-2006, 04:23 PM
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Fear The Red
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