Ka-Bosh

How can you say that Carter didn't have an opinion about the 2004 draft, your facts rely on the posters on these forums. Well I wouldn't rely on them to much, because none of them work for the front office, or know Carter personally. I am not saying that I know him because I don't but, I remember him saying in an interview that he wanted Igudola at the eight spot, and if I remember correctly Igudola played in his charity game that year. Does that mean anything? I believe it does in a way.

Also concerning the signings of Jerome Williams and Hakeem, don't tell me known of you were happy when you saw he resigned, or when Hakeem signed a contract with the team. The reason why he said that he wouldn't resign if he got those players is because the Raptors had a reputation of not keeping there stars. T-Mac, Stoudamire, Camby. So he knew that he had to scare them a bit. It might not be the right move, but it worked. Williams was a great player, he had passion for the game, and could of been a great point guard in this league if he stayed healthy. So all those signings where good at the time, they just didn't pan out.

Like I've mentioned before he didn't believe this franchise was going in the right direction, so he demanded a trade, and if you guys disagree with him, and you think the franchise was going in the right direction well your wrong, he drafted Hoffa, yes we needed a big man, and yes he put up the numbers in college, but lets be honest he wasn't suppose to be in the top 15.

Erving didn't have to much experience in the head office, but Babcock didn't have experience in has a general manager either. So work in both ways for that situation.

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Raptors fans should boo Carter forever. Or at least until he retires. And maybe if you see him in his Orlando gated community on vacation, boo him there, too. Just for fun.

I agree with the notion that McGrady can be, if not forgiven, at least treated like any other opposing player. But not Carter. Carter is, as mentioned, a whiner and a quitter. And that's that with that.

Keep booing Raptors fans. Boo loud and long.

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streetballa

I dislike vince carter!

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Nobody forced Carter to take the contract. He could have played out the last year of his rookie deal (if I recall correctly) and signed later. Instead, Carter took the max contract and ran. With that contract, he became the face of the franchise. There are responsibilities and one of those responsibilities is asking for team improvement. Another is playing through the lean times. But he wouldn't do that. Instead, he showed himself to be a greedy, childish whiner. And for that, he'll be booed for the rest of his career. And he brought it on himself. He can't handle responsibility. He wants to be paid like the Man but he doesn't want the responsibility of being the Man. He's a second fiddle. He's nothing more than a mercenary without passion. Give me Bosh and Calderon, both of whom exhibit pride and passion and responsibility, any day of the week. Carter will never win a championship. And that thought makes me happy.

None of us fans abandoned the Raptors during the lean years. Sure, we complained and griped and moaned but we never abandoned the franchise. And now we have a team on the rise without Carter the quitter. And that makes me happy, too.

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Ka-Bosh

How do you know that Vince Carter will never win a Championship?

Also yes I totally agree with you that he should taken resposibility of being the face of the franchise, but at the end of is tenure with the Raptors he didn't really have anyone to help him out to do so. Yes he had Chris Bosh but he was still a young player, and Mo Pete is very consistent, and in six years he had four coaches I believe how can you build a team, if you have a different system and coach every year? It's not possible.

Wow saying that you rather have Calderon over Carter is pretty bad, don't get me wrong I love Calderon he's a great player, but come on choosing him over Carter is just ridiculous.

Streetballa, that's all nice that you hate Vince, but can you say why you hate him?

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vincedunkedonzo2

WTF the quote you just gave me said he wasnt sure in the derection the team was going in. This means he didnt know if the team was going to make smart descisions and if they wanted him. Carter tried to be the face of the franchise but thats just not who he can be. Carter possibly didnt know what came with this title. Still I agree he should have put more thought into this. Carter is not a second fiddle he can be a main scoring option just has a problem with being a leader. Carter was supposedly one of the best playrs in the leaugue he could have easily signed with another franchise for the max. He chose to be loyal to the Raps. Thats why he isnt commenting on NJ. He doesnt wanna make the same mistake twice. He obviusly realized the Raps were rebuilding and he was stuck in this contract he signed. You cannot be the man and still make a lot of money. Is Shaq the face of Miami's franchise no but is he paid the most yes! Toronto would not have a franchise if not for Vince its blatintly obvious. As for VC haters I know they will always exist. In reference I turn to a quote posted by our own Shaq-Deisel "A true sign of greatness is when people start hating you. If he wasn't great, you wouldn't hate."

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vincedunkedonzo2

I Love #4!

vincedunkedonzo2

No sound on my computer what did he say?

swurv

As a Toronto fan, i hope we keep booing Carter forever. Its good for a team to know you got their back and if the players play hard, they will get love back (JYD)

And whats wrong with building a rep as a nasty fanbase?, every time I hear about philly fans I am kinda envious WE can't be as passionate. I think its just awesome, and funny too.

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Crossword

Lol, no ****. Most of us are.

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JuniorNoboa

1/3... not too credible

JuniorNoboa

But your not great???

anniebananerz

So George Bush is now great?

Well that's news to me.

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trick

Shaq is obviously one smart mofo.

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