chairman5

i like this guy. he plays with so much confidence it's really what the team needs consistently

he shoots great in this offensive type of game the Raptors usually play

and his defense is fine IMO, he is quick and staying infront of your man is what is asked of you, not blocks


what do you guys think?

lucky777s

I've always liked Juan Dixon and thought he would have been a good fit with past Raps teams. I'm just not sure that he is a good fit with this team. Not as a main rotation guy. And he won't be happy with Joey Graham minutes.

This team is so much about ball movement that his scoring mentality may not fit in well. And his lack of size makes him less able to finish strong at the rim, or guard bigger SG's or SF's both of which this team needs.

But he is a nice pressure defender we can throw out there with TJ to press full court from time to time. And he is instant offense off the bench when we need it.

If he is happy with limited minutes then he is a nice piece to have.

Seeing Dix and Hump on the court together scares me though. That reminds me of bad Raptor teams of the past with two black holes on Offense.

speedythief

He seems like a good guy. I'm going to wait to see how he plays coming off the bench later on in the season before I decide whether or not he fits.

billfindlay10

I like what hes has brought so far. I feel that with his play(if it stays at or near this level)it creates less of a need to keep Mo Pete in the off-season. We have a solid starting 2 guard in Parker to carry us for another year or two. He plays great "D" and can shoot the three to open it up inside.

Mo's 3 point shooting is now not as needed as it was. We have Parker, Bargnani, Jose, and Garbajosa(still a ?)who all can hit the three ball. We now add Dixon who is a very solid 3 point threat. If we can add that long rebounding small forward in the off season somehow, then Mo is gome and Dixon gets regular minutes as the 8th man.

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streetballa

I like him, i like what he has brought to the team so far and he is certainly doing more for the raps this season than fred jones was.

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Benis007

something to be said about his recent success in walking into a starting role.

hopefully we see the same production when he starts to get limited minutes. its going to be interesting to see how he plays once AP gets back in the swing of things and dixon only plays in spots. I could see Sam starting him even with a healthy Parker if the matchup is advantageous for the Raps.

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Junkyard Dog13

just dont like his frame which makes him sometimes a liability on D, like man to man he has the speed and posuitioning but securing loose rebounds is where he is weak.

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ballocks

i don't like the effect this/juan has had on mop. it has very little to do with juan (maybe nothing) but more with the way that he's been handled by the coaching staff- that being at the expense of mop, imo.

mo peterson is a cog in this lineup. or he should be imo. he's still, imo, a steady offensive and defensive performer who fills more of a hole/role than juan dixon. what's more, he's been here forever- i don't understand how a player the calibre of juan dixon could just come in and take (some of) his minutes right off the bat. that's just... bizarre. very odd. and the immediate effect has been a series of blowout losses. i don't know if that's a coincidence.

if nothing else, mo peterson is an asset for this team. we don't even know if the same could be said about juan dixon (yet). for the future and present of the toronto raptors, i would think that that should play a role in how we handled the two of them. but it hasn't. it seems like (for whatever reason) we've been burning bridges with an important player (mop). and if we haven't been doing it intentionally, it makes it seem all the more unwise: we must have some really strange leadership in suits that doesn't fully understand the effects of its decisions.

if i had to compare the two (which is tough, but bear with me), i don't know if there are many teams in the league who'd rather play juan than mop. in fact, i don't know if there are any. so why are we the exception? when you consider that we just acquired juan, that mop has been a leader for years, that parker is out with an injury, that we've been getting utterly abused defensively on the wings of late, and that we constantly harp on discipline and making your way into/up the rotation one step at a time, it makes it all the more confusing. i don't get it.

so again, it has little to do with juan dixon. it's the effect that he's had/shown on our team that worries me. it may indicate a major problem in various departments- or it may not.

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TRON

I've never been a fan of undersized SG's, the defensive mismatches they create tend to negate any offensive benefits you might gain from them. I cringe when I see TJ and Juan on at the same time, They both play hard D, but there are certain obvious limitations given their size.

Offensively I like what Juan has done. He has a nice inside-out game, and can score in a bunch of ways. He's not shy about shooting, but hasn't forced anything, and has been scoring efficiently in the games so far.

I think Juan has moved ahead of Joey in the rotation, and is knocking on Mo's door. With AP scheduled back soon it will be a battle for minutes in the backcourt, but it will be tough for Sam to not get this guy minutes.


actually I find his scoring mentality something this team lacked... because everyone is so unselfish. He's averaging 18 ppg in his last 3 games, shooting an impressive 57.5 FG%....if he can keep that up I see our bench being that much more potent when AP returns

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lucky777s

The danger is that other players see Juan taking so many shots that they either a) don't pass to him or b) start looking for their own shot more.

Raps have a delicate chemistry they have built this year. It was best when FJones was nailed to the bench and Hump wasn't seeing any time. MoP was coming off the bench and when he was playing well could finish out 4th quarters for us. Joey was getting some minutes to develop and gave Sam someone to constantly abuse and take out his frustrations on.

It doesn't take much to throw that chemistry out of whack.

MoP has always worked very hard on D. Never been a great defender or shut down anyone but he makes them work a little and takes a few charges. He gives us some size and rebounding help and when his shot is going he is a huge boost off the bench. He is as streaky as they come, but he loves the city and fits into just about any system you want to run. And I agree that any team would take MoP over Dixon just due to size.

So ultimately I think Juan should take FJones seat on the bench other than when our other shooters are cold or in foul trouble or Sam wants to use a pressure D on the perimeter. If he is knocking down shots your run with him longer.

Mo's poor shooting is what propelled Juan into the starting lineup. Mo can never step up when opportunity knocks which is why his FA offers were quite weak last time.

I will talk about Joey in the other thread.

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Juan Dixon is good at what he does: score. He's a shooter. Toronto needs shooters. As long as he knows his role, there won't be a problem.

Dixon and Peterson are 2 fundamentally different players. Peterson brings more defense to the table as well as some of the dirty work Dixon can't do (rebounding, etc.). On the whole, I'd rather have Peterson on the floor at crunch time. But Dixon has a role. He can stretch the defense and open things up for Bosh and Bargnani down low while not getting killed on defense. That's important during the second and third quarters.

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Knick_Killer31

how could you not like the guy? He just showed up and he's already had a bigger impact then Fred Jones.

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Ali Iverson

i agree with all of you that its not right that juan dixon just came in off a trade and starts over mo pete...thats just not right and as a basketball player i seen it affect alot of players...and it sux how it happen to the longest raptor we got whos about to be a free agent..how does this show we wanna keep mo pete..this could be a sign that they dont want mo pete after this season but we'll see what happens...on the other hand u cant complain on the way dixon has been playing...he looks like he really fits in..has a great shot and is finishing well around the basket and more importantly has been getting 4 to 5 reb each game from the guard spot which is huge...and this is a lil off topic but everyone been talking how we shoudl have traded for a rebounder but we got a rebounder on the bench and when he gets in he be rebounding...im talking bout humphries...he got a big body can finish well under the basket but most importantly wen we struggling and need soem one to bang and rebound he should be in the game...he might have slowed down vareijo against us cuz vareijo seems to kill us everytime he plays us

CB4Allstar

Definately like.

juan is an awesome offensive player. You COULD say that he shoots too much, but he is a very good scorer, and we basically traded a bench warmer for a potent 14-15 ppg guy. He's got a money mid range, and a good 3 pointer, and he tries on defense, and if he were taller he'd be a pretty great defensive player.

The only con I can think of is that he will sometimes disrupt the flow of the offense on days where he is cold. He is a gunner. He will shoot the ball, whether he is hot, or not. Doesn't matter. He's gonna shoot it.