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Dee-Zy · 03-15-2007, 11:58 PM

I was wondering about this the other day and I know it is still kind of far, but I can't help but be afraid to lose our players in FA. Especially Calderon, AP next and I guess Garbo to a certain point.

Calderon is playing GREAT. HE def has what it takes to be a starter unlike what I have been hearing A LOT of ppl saying he would be a career bench PG. I think once his contract is up, he might be wanting to go somewhere else because if he keeps up this play, he will be in demand. A fast pass first PG that can lead a team. If other teams offer him more money AND he gets to start, wtf can the raps do to keep him?

AP is my second concern, I'm afraid that by the time his contract is up he will attract ALOT of teams. Let's face it, these are VERY valuable players. If a team is willing to pay AP more money, I am VERY Afraid he'll take it, afterall, he is was a journey man who got ostracized by the NBA. I'm thinking somesort of Joe Johnson scenario here (although not a max deal). I can see a team going after him to make him their second option, which I think he is more than capable of in the league, even if he isn't that young.

Garbo, well, despite how dissapointed I am in him, I still like him and wishes he would stay.

but all this leads to this...

I am ****ting in my pants for losing Calderon. He is such a HUGE part of this team and I can only see his role grow bigger. Although these guys don't have huge egos, I wouldn't be surprised if they would leave for something that is better for them.

What I was wondering was, do you think if there was such a situation, ie: Calderon gets pulled by more money by a team that desperately needs a pass first PG and has cap space (lets say Orlando or Atl for argument sakes although I don't think their cap space will be that big in 3 years), do you think Jose would leave the Raps or he would stay here because we are a team that gave him a chance? Ditto for AP and Garbo.

thoughts?

dirtybird · 03-16-2007, 04:13 AM

I believe that we could re-sign Calderon this offseason, before he ever gets the chance to test the market. Although it's impossible to know for sure, Calderon seems more interested in winning than making the most $$$ possible. Plus, it doesn't hurt that he's playing with his best friend and in a city that probably best suited for himself. With those things considered, I'm fairly certain that the Raptors could get a substantial hometown discount for Calderon. If Barbosa is willing to sign for $6M/yr, I'm sure that we could get Calderon in the $5-6M/yr range (maybe even less).

As for AP and Garbo, their contracts are probably the perfect length. They are both around 30yrs, so by the time their contract runs out, they will be past prime. Most players tend to slow down in their mid30's (esp wing players).

firstrounder · 03-16-2007, 06:25 AM

Anthony Parker is signed for 3 or 4 years right?

He'll be 33 or 34 when his contract is up, I doubt he'll be resigned beyond that, and if so it won't be for anything drastic. Same deal with Garbo.

Calderon is the only one I want to make sure we can hold on to...

Flush · 03-16-2007, 06:37 AM

AP and Garbo will not be big contract guys at the end of the their current contracts. Probably vet min.

Affordable. If we want them at that stage

crimedog · 03-16-2007, 08:29 AM

i would assume calderon will want to stick with garbo, so as long as he's here, we should have an advantage over other teams...not to say his agent will give us a spaniard discount

Dee-Zy · 03-16-2007, 01:26 PM

I think you guys are right about AP and Garbo

but yeah, I'm ****ting in my pants for Calderon.

SickGame · 03-16-2007, 01:31 PM

I'd be down for trading Calderon for something valuable if T.J. continues his play. But realistically, I doubt Calderon will leave if we're doing well and Garbo stays, probably sign for the MLE.

Dee-Zy · 03-16-2007, 02:52 PM

Calderon is only 2 years older than Ford and by the way they are playing right now, he deserves the same contract, maybe a year less and maybe a 1mill or two less (for the duration of the contract, not per year)

SkywalkerAC · 03-16-2007, 03:32 PM

Thankfully we will have the ability to offer Calderon a sizable contract. A few other teams will too but I think he'll stick with a good thing in Toronto. BC is going to use Calderon's value, by keeping him or trading him; i doubt we let Jose just walk.

We've got the kind of team and organization that can hold onto players.

Scipio · 03-17-2007, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtybird

With those things considered, I'm fairly certain that the Raptors could get a substantial hometown discount for Calderon. If Barbosa is willing to sign for $6M/yr, I'm sure that we could get Calderon in the $5-6M/yr range (maybe even less).

I agree he propably likes Toronto and the european athmosphere but he won't undervalue him. He'll propably resign for something like 7M/year. MLE won't get it done in my opinion. As Skywalker said, BC will get the most out of him even by signing or trading.

**shookem** · 03-17-2007, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SkywalkerAC

Thankfully we will have the ability to offer Calderon a sizable contract. A few other teams will too but I think he'll stick with a good thing in Toronto. BC is going to use Calderon's value, by keeping him or trading him; i doubt we let Jose just walk.

We've got the kind of team and organization that can hold onto players.

See what happens next year. Then you gotta just sign the guys you have to and trade the ones you can. BC is a smart dude, I being able to have faith in the team's mangement.

JuniorNoboa · 03-17-2007, 09:43 AM

Jose Calderon is a team player but he also has alot of pride, competitiveness, and willingness to improve.

I still think there is alot of "naive" on this baord concerning Jose. People confuse team player with the concept of staying with a team,

Jose will do whatever possible to help this team - he is a Raptor, he will accept his role to help the team win. But when he is a free agent, he has PRIDE and COMPETITIVESS, you can see it. To me that is an obvious signal that he will go where he can get more playing time.... this has absolutely nothing to do with him being a team player or liking a city, and yet many of you still fail to see this.

I still think BC will trade one of the point guards this offseason. If there is a good player that BC wants as part of his core (and I'm sure BC has earmarked a few) trading one of the points is the only way to get this.

Dee-Zy · 03-17-2007, 09:18 PM

That is really a shame because I think we have the best PG combo in the league and if we have ... **** I can't seem to remember his name, that dude in europe, got it on the tip of my tongue.

Anyways, if he comes over next year, would prolly have THE best rotation ever of PGs. With Mcnugget out, we won't have as much liability if one of them goes down. It would be a pretty damn deep rotation.

Junkyard Dog13 · 03-19-2007, 10:01 AM

6 mill is to much for a back up PG

offer 4 years 18 mill.

4.5 mill/season avg.

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