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Old 03-18-2007, 11:55 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Re: Raptors @ Knicks, Mar. 18th

stop slagging mopete. tj ford played stopid. comparing dmartin an tj at point you could see how much better dmartin was at moving the ball around the horn. when tj tried to pass the ball he looked like a hi school guard who gets lost without the ball in his hands. tj passes are weak floaters an he looks too small to whip the ball down the floor or to the corners.

rautens said the raps dribbled too much an he was right but he never mentioned it was tj ford doing it. he would take a couple of extra dribbles and everything would stop as players just stood there watching him mess up an fumble.

TJ FORD SUX ... PLAIN & SIMPLE
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Old 03-18-2007, 12:09 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Re: Raptors @ Knicks, Mar. 18th

Alright guys, ease up. I know this game was beyond horrible. But let's stop blaming TJ and Mo. Anyone remember the last game vs. the Knicks where everybody was praising TJ? Mo is just in a slump right now, but I'm sure he will get his form back come playoff time.
Let's just stop blaming individuals. Our turnovers killed us and it was a bad game. Now, onto the next one vs. Orlando.
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75% of the turnovers were coming off of Ford and half of them was because he would keep driving in traffic over and over when he clearly wasn't getting it done.
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Re: Raptors @ Knicks, Mar. 18th

T.J had a bad game? So what? The kid's like 22 years old and has only played two full seasons in the NBA (this being his third).
He was playing out of his mind the past 3-4 games so it was bound to happen. It's just too bad we didn't have Calderon to even it out because Martin is not a good distributor. His jumpshot is almost automatic but nevertheless.
It wasn't like the team played well. Afterall, we did go 2-22 from three point land. Dixon was chuking up shots. Bargnani wasn't being assertive. Bosh dissapeared. It was just a bad game overall.
These things happen.
Relax.
Everyone here seems to be on their period the way they're fussing and whining about one game. A young team without significant winning experience that is overachieving aren't going to blow your mind every single game. This happens and it will even happen in the playoffs. This is a growing team that is still learning everything. These things take time.
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7 OF 19 TURNOVERS ..... TJ FORD ...!!!!

that is not the performance of a starting PG in the NBA. most of his turnovers was cause of him trying to dribble thru the knicks an getting stripped.

tj couldnt distribute the ball in the whole game an that messed up the other player ... particulary Bosh an Barg.

every time tj is starting i want smitch to put in jose to get the team playing together .. every time.
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Old 03-18-2007, 03:15 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Re: Raptors @ Knicks, Mar. 18th

My attention is directed towards Clyde Frazier and how he stays so cool and collected after all these years. The man is very living defintion of the word "Funk".

BTW, does anyone else cringe when Ford and Dixon are on the floor at the same time? *shudder*

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tj couldnt distribute the ball in the whole game an that messed up the other player ... particulary Bosh an Barg.
I'm all for picking on TJ seeing as how I'm very skeptical of his future so to speak right from the start, but I don't hold him accountable for other people's responsibilities. Bosh has been so inconsistent ever since the all-star break that sometimes I feel he should just go on the IL for a few days. Dude seems like he needs a break. Bargnani, on the other hand, was continually getting abused by Curry whenever he would guard him, and as a result, he couldn't get into a groove. Only until Curry was taken out of the game in the fourth did Bargnani start to develop somewhat of an offensive flow, but by then it was too late.
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Old 03-18-2007, 03:22 PM   #67 (permalink)
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T.J had a bad game? So what? The kid's like 22 years old and has only played two full seasons in the NBA (this being his third).
He was playing out of his mind the past 3-4 games so it was bound to happen. It's just too bad we didn't have Calderon to even it out because Martin is not a good distributor. His jumpshot is almost automatic but nevertheless.
It wasn't like the team played well. Afterall, we did go 2-22 from three point land. Dixon was chuking up shots. Bargnani wasn't being assertive. Bosh dissapeared. It was just a bad game overall.
These things happen.
Relax.
Everyone here seems to be on their period the way they're fussing and whining about one game. A young team without significant winning experience that is overachieving aren't going to blow your mind every single game. This happens and it will even happen in the playoffs. This is a growing team that is still learning everything. These things take time.
So...when TJ has a good game we should praise him but when he plays terrible let's just chalk it up to age?

:barf:

BTW, it's March already so all the "growing as a team" thing is overdue.
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Re: Raptors @ Knicks, Mar. 18th

I have always been a big fan of MoPete, but gosh, he looked horrible today. And hes supposed to be one of the team veterans..

I have usually tried to shoot down the MoPete trade/free agency rumors, cause he used to be such a big part of this team, and a guy who loves Canada and is a true class act guy.

But his game has looked terrible lately, and even his defense which is usualy above average was terrible. Ronaldo Balkman was schooling him..

I woke up early to watch this one too.. Disappointing.
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:18 PM   #69 (permalink)
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oh wait the Tj ford hate club is back? missed you guys man where were you during the 4 game win streak?
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Old 03-18-2007, 06:29 PM   #71 (permalink)
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good thing we got parker back in the lineup today, the glue. or wait-

how many of these games can one team string together? are we now waiting for jose to return? at some point we'll have to accept that there appears to be a substantial leadership void on the team. the raptors have been blown out more often over the past two weeks than any other team in the league- you can look it up. and that comes with a four-game win streak smack dab in the middle of it all. yup, get your head around that one.

we are so fortunate to have encountered seattle, memphis and milwaukee right when we did. we could easily- correction: should- be in the midst of an extended losing skid right now.

it's been years since i've been this disappointed with the team, the irony being that we're headed for the playoffs and one of our best final records in franchise history. we can talk about 'heart' and playing with urgency and pride and professional discipline forever, but it won't change a thing until we do it.

we really need some kind of a leader, imo. chris might get there eventually but he looks like he's been outclassed on that point recently. i don't know if the leader we're missing is a player either, he might be a coach or something else, but he's certainly not around today. i would love to see some raptor take these losses personally- even call out his teammates for these dreadful games- but it doesn't look like we have that raptor today. charles oakley, chris childs, mike james, where are you?

i was embarrassed today. and y'know what? i thought mop had a good game. he's probably the one man i can trust is not happy with how the team's been playing, let alone how he himself has been playing. i see him as the one player with the potential to pull us out of this rut on account of his relatively strong leadership qualities, but it remains to be seen whether he can do it for us again.

this was never about anthony parker or jose calderon or anyone else. the team's got to grow up, imo.

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