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Old 03-24-2007, 04:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

Rumours abound that Evans, who stuck his foot under Bosh and sprained his ankle, was attempting this move repeatedly last night on Calderon and Garbajosa, who complained to the refs. Supposedly Calderon stuck his leg out when describing what Evans was doing to an official. When Evans went for the lay-up it was no wonder that both Peterson and Nesterovic clobbered him. Afterwards assistant coaches from both teams got into it on the sidelines for the same reason.

Does our team actually have some guts?
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

it looked like a hard foul to me
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Old 03-24-2007, 07:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

ive already said it to speedy, but rasho was moody last nite, he was coming out with the hard fouls from the get go, which i couldnt be more then impressed by.

and if evans was doing the bruce bowen then iam glad rasho gave him a hit to the chops
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

It was and I'm glad he did it.

Reggie Evans wants to act like a little punk *****, then he can have 270 lbs of Yugoslavian power in his face.

The playoffs are coming and everything will toughen up and slow down. It's good to see our boys want to protect and help each other like that.
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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

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Reggie Evans wants to act like a little punk *****, then he can have 270 lbs of Yugoslavian power in his face.

..thats goin in my sig man.
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Old 03-24-2007, 11:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

Rasho is Slovenijan...There is no such thing as a Yugoslavian.Pick up a newspaper more often
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Old 03-24-2007, 12:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

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Rasho is Slovenijan...There is no such thing as a Yugoslavian.Pick up a newspaper more often
Correct . . and if someone does reference Yugoslavia - they would be referring to Serbia. A Slovenijan would not appreciate the mistake.

At any rate, Yes it was more than a hard foul, he clobbered him. And good on him too. Reggie Evans deserves to be clobbered because he is a cheap shot *** hole.

**** you Reggie

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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

Evans deserved that, he is a piece of ****.
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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

Clips of said incident and said Raptor retaliation foul?
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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

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Rasho is Slovenijan...There is no such thing as a Yugoslavian.Pick up a newspaper more often
If you looked at his birth certificate, what country would it say? Which country did he grow up in?

Serbia didn't become a country until 2003. Slovenia declared their independance in 1991. Rasho was born in '76.
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If you looked at his birth certificate, what country would it say? Which country did he grow up in?

Serbia didn't become a country until 2003. Slovenia declared their independance in 1991. Rasho was born in '76.
Ya...I was gonna defend you on that one shookem...I don't think Yugoslavian is an inappropriate way to describe him...although technically not correct anymore.
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Old 03-25-2007, 03:55 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Flagrant on Evans more than just a hard foul?

i think the initial play that bosh got injured on has been blown out of proportion and... i kind of side with reggie on that one. i think we're understandably sensitive to guys stepping under our raptor jumpshooters by now, but i don't think reggie was looking to hurt chris. imo, it was more bad luck for us than it was anything done intentionally by reggie evans (the operative word being 'intentionally').

that said, i think it still unveils a type of player (and person) that seems to be everywhere these days: the "tunnel vision" person. i mean, you'll see 'them' in traffic, for example, the people who aren't even on cell phones and still manage to disrupt flow considerably without knowing they are by, i don't know, moving into the passing lane and then braking just before a line of cars would've passed them. you'll also see 'them' in the weight room, for example, just leaving weights around all over the floor as if: 1) they don't think someone will have to put them away eventually, and that that someone will/would be doing 'their' work if/when they do; 2) they don't know that someone could... step on them and sprain their ankle, for instance. hell, you see 'them' everywhere, doing all kinds of things that either hurt people physically or emotionally, and that being done unnecessarily every time. good ol' mr./mrs. tunnel vision.

i think reggie evans might have revealed his "tunnel vision" tendencies on that play. like, what are you really doing? do your instincts really not tell you that you could hurt someone by doing that? that's too bad. that depresses me. i'm going to be honest, though, i sometimes see chris as one of 'those' people, too. and i like chris, don't get me wrong, but he will also from time to time attack a rebound with unnecessary reckless abandonment, for example, without seeming regard for anyone around him, as that rebound is getting ready to fall into his teammate's lap quite easily. it rarely leads to a turnover but the point is that: 1) it could lead to an unnecessary turnover; 2) it could lead to an- again, unnecessary- injury to either himself or his teammate.

the reggie evans play was just another example of it. i just watch and wonder, "do you really not know, instinctively, that you're choosing to do something here that doesn't really help you at all and could quite easily hurt another person? why are you doing that? or better, why do you not know that that could happen?"

i don't have the answers to those questions but it does bring me down. i take it beyond basketball. i wonder why tunnel vision plagues our world on such a widespread basis. i also worry that it'll plague even more of the world tomorrow, and even more of the world the day after tomorrow, etc. i wonder how we could stop its progress. the reggie evans/chris bosh play was just a microcosm of a bigger problem for me. oh well. it's also my problem for taking it too far.

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Old 03-27-2007, 12:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Ya...I was gonna defend you on that one shookem...I don't think Yugoslavian is an inappropriate way to describe him...although technically not correct anymore.
well, to be technical about it...
Yugoslavia was a nation. A nation is an artificial political construct. It was never an ethnicity. There are no ethnic Yugoslavians. It was created, artificially, by western powers sorting out the pieces after world wars one and two.

Your nationality must be to a nation. When a nation no longer exists, you can no longer have that nationality.

It is correct to say he was born in Yugoslavia. But no-one can be correctly termed "Yugoslavian" anymore.

All of which demeans the damn funny line, which I thoroughly enjoyed anyway!
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:53 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I was at the game and also saw the game in an hour on rapsTV. I honestly do believe it was a dirty play. Reggie was talking so much and throwing so many elbows in the post. He was getting schooled in the first quarter by our bigs and was taken out early despite having 7 rebounds. I was watching closely and both Bosh or Rasho didn't talk back. I was surprised Bosh didn't go at him more while he was in the game.
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