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04-09-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
I was really impressed by Dixon this game. It's hard to make a pull up jumper on the fast break with a few defenders close behind. And he made a few of those shots and seemed to really get the Raps rollin'. That halfcourt shot at the end of the 3rd wasn't too shabby either.
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04-09-2007, 02:43 PM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
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Originally Posted by Deng101
Just not to get you guys 2 over-confident, TT and Wallace were both coming back from the flu and it was Nocioni's first game back. Not 2 mention if we play unless we tank rest of season we will have home court advantage. That being said it would still be a good series just think the Bulls would be the favorites.
Also Ben Wallace has been good for the most part post all star break, isnt all that we expected but he is definitely a difference maker when he wants to be. And, personally I dont regret not making the Gasol trade at all, they wanted Deng who is arguably our best player.
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Keep those excuses handy, you're going to need them.
Where was Bargnani and Garbo? Oh, yeah, not playing.
Your team got beat but our back-ups, period.
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04-09-2007, 05:15 PM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
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You're such a TJ hater, it kills me. The guy struggles offensively but plays a great game on defense and was responsible for cooling Gordon down and rendering him innefective in the second half after he went off in the first.
Hate on TJ all you want but the facts are there: he's a winner
Goes to Texas at a time when the program was struggling and makes them into a top 5 team.
Goes to Milwaukee, takes that team to the playoffs after they missed it for a couple of years.
Gets injured, Milwaukee misses the playoffs.
Comes back, Milwaukee goes back into the playoffs.
Gets traded to Toronto, takes Toronto to the playoffs.
The facts are there, he's only 24 and still has a lot to learn, ease up and most of all, stop pissing me off, ha, god.
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i dont 'hate' tj its just that i dont think a $33 million pg should be a project. tj has weaknesses an i suspect that he is being built up for a trade next season. i can see tj going to a team like the suns to back up nash an its a natural fit. in exchange bc could possibly get somebody like barbosa who would fit in beautifully with the raps.
calderon is a great pg an when tj starts to lose control of the team an himself smitch subs in jose an the raps recover magically.
tj just loses it too often on offence an that is where a great pg cant fail .. regardless of how he does on defence. he is not a complete pg an it shows a lot.
rather than looking at his past record look at what he is doing now particularily on offence where he seems to be on the verge of greatness but he goes unstable an it looks really bad.
it would be great if bc could bring in both iavaroni and barbosa for next season cause i think smitch is going elsewhere for a big payday too an good for him.
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04-09-2007, 05:30 PM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
TJ is a PROJECT? Lol, I've heard it all now.
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04-09-2007, 07:19 PM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
You're calling a 14 and 8 pg a project. Barbosa is more of a shooting guard than point guard. How you came to the conclusion that Barbosa would "fit in" better than Ford is beyond me.
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04-09-2007, 07:36 PM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
I think some of the hate on Ford comes from the fact Calderon has been so damn good this year. We're spoiled. When Ford isn't playing well Calderon jumps in and leads us like a Spanish Conquistador General. If Martin was our primary back-up I think people would appreciate Ford more, if that makes sense.
Kind of like the decent looking girl that drags ugly friends around with her. Contrast friends. She goes from a seven to a nine just like that.
Sometimes I wonder if Raps fans realize how lucky they/we are with this PG rotation.
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04-10-2007, 12:56 AM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
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Kind of like the decent looking girl that drags ugly friends around with her. Contrast friends. She goes from a seven to a nine just like that.
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An interesting analogy, but a point nonetheless.
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04-10-2007, 08:08 AM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
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When Ford isn't playing well Calderon jumps in and leads us like a Spanish Conquistador General.
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Bahaha! Does Dirk lead his team like a Nazi general?
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04-10-2007, 08:44 AM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
I would much rather have TJ than Barbosa. We have a mini Barbosa in Dixon
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04-10-2007, 08:47 AM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
its not about hating tj its about how he plays the point compared to jose. jose is a euro pg while tj is a US pg an you can see the differences. i think the raps play a lot better with jose at point cause he is more of a floor general while tj is just a flashy street baller.
if the raps could trade tj for barbosa and then bring in another good euro guard with iavaroni as coach the raps could be a big nba power. i think smitch will get a lot of big offers this summer an will be gone. bc is still building the raps an there will be a lot of change next season.
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04-10-2007, 09:27 AM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
What a great game..love the raptors
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04-10-2007, 10:49 AM
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Re: Bulls @ Raptors, Apr. 8th
I don't think TJ is a US PG at all, he is on his way of becoming a Baron Davis or Starbury. I want him to be like Nash and Kidd, not Francis.
I think you are right on the head about the flashy, but I onwder if you watch the raps or you just make assumptions based on litterature, cuz I don't see how Barbosa would be a better fit.
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