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04-11-2007, 12:05 PM
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Re: Raptors bring Euro-hoop to NBA
SickGame ... what you conveniently omit is the probability that smitch may want to leave toronto and coach a US team in the southeast an be closer to his family .. an get a ****pot full more money than the raps will offer him.
smitch now has a great reputation of being a motivational turnaround coach an you can find a lot of x an o assistant coaches to help him.
i think it will turn out best for both if smitch leaves and bc can bring in his own coach like iavaroni or somebody from europe .. an smitch is smart enough to know that too.
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04-11-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: Raptors bring Euro-hoop to NBA
Iavaroni is from Virginia and an assistant at Phoenix and played 14 years in the NBA. How is he "somebody from Europe"? He was born in New York.
You're just basing this on his last name and what you happend to have heard.
Mitchell wants to leave the team he's helped build? He just wants to bounce and goto U.S. for supposed greener pastures? What do you know about his family situation? Give me a break.
Get your facts right.
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04-11-2007, 12:20 PM
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Re: Raptors bring Euro-hoop to NBA
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SickGame ... what you conveniently omit is the probability that smitch may want to leave toronto and coach a US team in the southeast an be closer to his family .. an get a ****pot full more money than the raps will offer him.
smitch now has a great reputation of being a motivational turnaround coach an you can find a lot of x an o assistant coaches to help him.
i think it will turn out best for both if smitch leaves and bc can bring in his own coach like iavaroni or somebody from europe .. an smitch is smart enough to know that too.
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Well there are a lot of things flawed in you interpretation of our coachign situation.
-Why would he get offered more from other organizations? Did MSLE not prove they are willing to open up their wallets when they signed Bryan last spring?
-Sam might be closer to his family in a southern team, but right here in Toronto he has found a home with the Raps. It's hard to walk away from something as good as the raps are rigth now knowing you had a lot to do with it.
-Sam may not run a lot of X's, and O's offense, but has that not been a blessing in disguise thsis year? I mean has the freedom on the court not allowed our team to form ther own identity with one another? With everybody on the court finding a role they feel comfortable in? His open offense is the best offense for the raps.
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04-12-2007, 12:39 PM
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Yeah...that is so obvious, you joke.
B.C.: "Hey Sam"
Mitchell: "What's up Brian?"
B.C.: "I need to talk to you. This is going to be hard but let me explain everything first."
Mitchell: "Ok..."
B.C.: "Listen, I know you made Bosh into the leader he is today and you led this team to winning their conference and the third seed after only winning 27 games last year. I also know that you adjusted to nine new faces, including a few international players and a number one draft pick from Europe, while doing this turn-around."
Mitchell: "Yeah...so?"
B.C.: "But we're not going to re-sign you because let's face it, we're supposedly bringing in more players from Europe and having already juggled four players this year shows that you're not capable of dealing with it."
Mitchell: "That doesn't make any sense. I made Garbo, Parker, Jose and Andrea into essential pieces of the winning puzzle. In fact, I instituted a style of play that resembles the European style of play. That's why we're so successful."
B.C.: "I know this is hard for you but, it's just that we're going to build a championship team around players outside the U.S. and there's the whole deal with..."
Mitchell: "With what?"
B.C.: "Well, your last name."
Mitchell: "What do you mean my last name?"
B.C.: "Well think about it. Colangelo, Gherardini and Mitchell? That doesn't work. But listen to this: Colangelo, Gherardini and Iavaroni. See what I'm saying?"
Mitchell: "Ohhh, yeah I see it now. Yeah that makes complete sense."
B.C.: "Yeah sorry man, I mean, you did a great job and all but..."
Mitchell: "But..the writing is on the wall, I know."
Man shut the **** up.
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04-12-2007, 12:55 PM
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the nba is a business not a love-in.
rap fans may love smitch but bc cant afford to cloud his thinking by rewarding smitch just for the last seasons success.
bc didnt bring in gherardini only as a favor to bargs or garbo. he brought him in to bring in more international players an these euroballers prefer to play for a coach that understands their style of play.
i still think that smitch will want to move on to new pastures and hone his coaching skills elsewhere particularily if he is going to get a whole lot more money an be closer to his family in Atlanta. life will be good for smitch an he deserves it.
smitch was probably not in bc's long term plans for the raps anyway an i dont think he is going to change his plans just to keep the fans happy.
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04-12-2007, 01:52 PM
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Re: Raptors bring Euro-hoop to NBA
Sam in my view has to make it to rnd 2 for BC to get a extension.
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04-12-2007, 02:35 PM
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i think it will turn out best for both if smitch leaves and bc can bring in his own coach like iavaroni or somebody from europe .. an smitch is smart enough to know that too.
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How the hell can it better for us as Raptors fans. What more do you want from your coach? What more hjasn't he proven? What is wrong with the current system? What the hell more did you want from Parker, JOse, AB, GArbo... Mitchell seems to have incorporated there Euro skills quite quickly.
YOu are EXACTLY the type of person that is being portrayed in sickgame's fine piece of work, and you don't even seem to realize it. Sam has properly implemented the ball movement system now, who the **** cares if he has no european pedigree.
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04-12-2007, 02:36 PM
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Sam in my view has to make it to rnd 2 for BC to get a extension.
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So your going to base your judgment of an individual being able to lead and direct your team over the next five years, over a sample of 7 games. That does not seem very logical...
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04-12-2007, 02:40 PM
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bc didnt bring in gherardini only as a favor to bargs or garbo. he brought him in to bring in more international players an these euroballers prefer to play for a coach that understands their style of play.
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Read this post real slowly and maybe you will understand.
1. Sam Mitchell has shown that he can integrate several Europena players into the NBA this year. (re-read that several times)
2. Sam Mitchell has implemeneted a system of ball movement that resembles the European game (Re-read that several times.
3. Sam Mitchell has proven that he will give a fair shot to Europen players, and will use there skillset.
4. Sam Mitchell has proven that he has good "personal" coaching skills.
NOW READ 1,2 and 3 AGAIN.
READ 1,2 and 3 AGAIN,
AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN.
now I ask you: What will a new European coach going to demonstrate that Sam hasn't? And at the same relate to the players like Sam has this year?
READ 1,2, and 3 AGAIN. AGAIN. AGAIN
here's the catch. BC is a smart man. While his plans may have been to let Sam go at the beginning of the year. he has obviously watched games and seen what Sam go. He does not have to read 1,2 and 3. He knows 1,2 and 3.
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