jerkstore

The Nets playoff record, was dismissed by Raptors posters as without value, Finals appeareances also without value, all that matters is jewlery.
Well allow me to retort.

It's not just "experience" it's depth of experience. It's about how many guys have it.
It's about leadership, and situational recognition, then for each player to make the correct choice.

Talent is a factor, Morale is a factor, Concentration is a factor, Stamina is a factor and all of this orbits the collective and cumulative experience and absobtion of lessons learned.

It comes down to how many times you've walked down this road.

HB

Read it again, obviously talent always comes into play, its the NBA after all. But do you know how hard it is for a low seed to come in and win against a high seed nowadays. What do you think helps them key in on their opponents better for those 6 or 7 games?

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JuniorNoboa

I love all the Nets fans that come on and understand all about playoff experience.

Here's something to understand. We win the next ****ing game we take control of the series. One game, folks, one game.

Read that... I'll say it again.

We are one game away from taking back control of the series.

And again for so you understand

We are one game away from taking back control of the series.

Apparently, from all your posts, I might need to repeat this again.

We are one game away from taking back control of the series.


Read again several times.

Understand now? I'm quessing its still way over your head.

HB

The Raptors have the control of this series, after all a 47 win team should have no problem taking care of a 41 win team

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NeoSamurai

clearly not since hes jumped to the NBA and is now trying to win an NBA title...for a lot of these players, as kids, most dont dream about winning the EuroLeague title or a National Championship, nor Olympic gold (although they are great accomplishments), they want to win the biggest prize of all and thats the Larry O'Brien trophy....

Parker and Dixon's accomplishments are exceptional, however, the idea of being an NBA Champion is the dream for anyone with a desire for basketball...its like hockey players and the Stanley Cup or soccer players with the World Cup...for basketball players the NBA playoffs is the biggest stage they can reach and to be there, especially if its your first time with not many teammates who have been there before to guide you in the experience, it can be intimidating...

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NeoSamurai

haha, this poker analogy spoke to me...i love it...

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firstrounder

Dude, I meant AT THAT TIME it was his biggest moment. That much is obvious, isnt it?

Yes I'm sure they want to win the NBA championship, but that is irrelavent to my point.

My point is that when Dixon was in the NCAA final and when Parker was in the Euro finals they were in a HUGE pressure situation, greater than the one they are in now, and they were successful.

My point was that most of the Raptors if not all have been in similar pressure situations before at different levels of basketball and they pulled through.

It doesnt matter that it was Euro or NCAA instead of NBA. The point remains the same, that at THAT TIME IN THEIR LIFE, it was a HUGE pressure situation, and something greater than they had ever faced before, and they SUCCEEDED.

I would argue with you that an NCAA final is far more pressure for a college player who hasnt yet been in the NBA, than a 1st round NBA playoff series is for an NBA player who has been in the league a while. There is no question in my mind that the Final Four would be more overwhelming than an NBA 1st round series. No question.

We're talking about kids here, on a national stage. The NBA has men who have been through so much more up to this point.

seifer0406

I'm sorry, but I'm going to side with the Nets fans on this one. Experience in the big leagues is not the same as experience in less developed leagues or amateur leagues. I wouldn't even consider their college or highschool experience because it doesn't matter how much experience they have at that time, since they are playing against other players who have had pretty much the same experience as them. The most amount of gap you can have in a NCAA game is a senior vs. freshman, which is just 3 more seasons, whereas in the NBA you have someone like Jason Kidd playing against Jose Calderon. It's not comparing apples to apples. You wouldn't know if Dixon or Parker made any mistake in NCAA, since even if they did, their opponents would probably make the same mistake also considering they have the same experience, thus making this comparison a moot point.

If you look at teams that have went deep into the playoffs, the majority of them are veteran teams. I don't have the exact statistics, but I don't think a team with key players that are in their mid 20s have made to the conference finals in the past 10 years. The last young team to make it to the finals was Shaq and Penny all the way back in 95' and GP&Kemp in 96.. And if you remember back then, it was playoff experience that cracked the Magic (remember those miss freethrows by Nick Anderson) causing the sweep. Kemp and GP were 26-27 year old in 96' as well, and Kemp has been in the league since highschool. I think Charles Barkley said it best a couple nights ago on TNT, once a player enters the playoffs it is a whole different experience and each level the team progresses that experience grows more intense.

shookem

It's easy. In Euroleague, in college, in high school and in every big game these players played in before the NBA, they were the best players on the court. Now they're not. The pressure may be the same but the surroundings are not.

Make no mistake, a big game is a big game. But a big game versus Nikos Zisis or Dane Fife is different than a big game versus Jason Kidd and his band of merry men.

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NeoSamurai

Yes but you neglect the fact that in college basketball, especially during the March tourney, the champs are almost always led by an experienced junior or senior. Rarely do you ever see a freshman come in and take his team to the title based upon his talent alone. There was Melo a couple of years back, Oden this year, who else? Not many come to mind. Heck, thats the reason why the Fab 4 never came away with a title despite their talents. These teams are led by superstars and with the case of Oden, despite being the best player on the court in the Natl Championship his team still lost to the more talented and experienced Florida Gators, a team that 2 years ago were led by sophmores but have at least 3 guys going into the NBA.

For Bosh, consider that he hasnt played a meaningful post-season game in 5 years when he was in HS. He played in the ACC with GT and that arguably brought on some nerves, but it is still 5 years ago. This can explain why he has looked tentative at times and seems to be pressing at others. A lack of knowing what to do in a pressure filled situation may be getting into his head right now, despite his talent and athletic advantage.

Experience is huge...

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NJ Grand NJ

It's just different, that's it. Go play in a pick up game for 20 dollars. You could play your heart out and make it the biggest moment of your life. But once you step into a State championship game, it's a whole different animal.

Still, it's different for everyone. Some people choke in the NCAA tourney and turn out fine in pressure situations in the league. Now you keep saying this isn't a regular season vs. playoffs. But it actually is.

Experience matters when the game completely changes on you. All of a sudden, the games have become more physical, everyone is going 100%, and each game is filled with adjustments. That's why experience matters.

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Although you cannot ignore the people that have