Foulzilla

Just inside the 3 point line is his money spot honestly. I don't know why he struggles so much when taking a step or two back, I'm sure it's mostly mental. However, with his leaping ability he's able to get that shot pretty much at will. Unfotunately, despite his athleticism he's a pretty poor finisher around the rim in most situations. He jumps real high, but not very quickly.

I think Portland keeps him unless someone really overpays him myself. They like him and he has shown definite improvement.

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lucky777s

His 3pt% means nothing right now. He only took 0.5 3fga per game. He went to the FT line about 3 times a game. Shown slow but steady improvement. Could still be a total bust and this next year is going to tell a lot about him. Same with Dorrel Wright who needs to step up and prove he is an nba starter or 6th man. And Gerald Green too, although he is the youngest of the bunch. You have to be patient when you take HS talent. That's why Babs was so scared to do it.

My big worry with Outlaw is the environment he has grown up in as a pro in POR. Lousy role models can form bad habits that will never be broken. And we have to sign him to a big deal before seeing what he really has.

On the plus side we could probably move him easily. Lots of suckers lined up for Darius Miles despite all the warning signs. POR just gave him a huge contract a year or two ago.

TRON

I think Calderons value is higher than Outlaw(plus pick)...Starting material PG's are rare and much more valuable than a young promising wings

From what I've seen, Steve Blake and Chauncey Billips are the only Pg's of note on the free agent market. BC will no doubt charge a hefty price if another team wants Calderons services.

I remember Seatles interest in Calderon last year and I'd love to see Rashard Lewis in a Raps uni (don't know if it would work $$$), or some of thier set of young centers Petro, Swift or Sene

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andalusian

Poor attempt at humor given that Portland already has a spanish PG on the roster.

Only if Portland does not match - but I suspect that they would.

He can get his shot over anyone in the leauge and does rather well as long as he stays within the 2 point range. He can hit the 3 - but he is less consistent there. His biggest issue is that he is not a good one on one defender and he does not take it to the rim as much as he should. He had only 2 games last years where the light bulb went on and he attacked the rim without mercy. He was pretty much unstoppable then - and that's why I suspect that someone would have to pay a lot for Portland not to match.

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Either Nocioni or Pietrus would be great fits in Toronto.

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I think you've got to go after Pietrus first, if you're BC. I don't think he's available for the MLE but you've gotta find out. He brings defense and athleticism those should be priority number one and two for any swing player we spend significant money on. With AP, Joey, and Pietrus we'd have great wing defense every night, IMO. They're going to make you work.

Barnes fits too IMO. He's not quite the athlete I'm looking for but he does get up and use his length and defends and shoots well. Is he a starting small forward on a contender? Maybe not, but he should be within our price range (if golden state matches Pietrus anyway).

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and Outlaw fits too of course. he'll be 23 next season but I think he'll be effective through his prime and effective in our system. he doesn't utilize his athleticism nearly as well as you'd like and he's not the beast that i want to put next to bosh and bargnani but he brings great length and an unblockable jumper to the court.

is BC going to land one of these three? he's certainly bound to try.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2873275

Does this make Pietrus REALLY available???

Pain5155

we should go after matt barnes to replace moe pete, and try to get pavlovic.

seifer0406

I am not that interested in Outlaw. He seems to be another Darius Miles/Ndudi Ebi/Stro Swift. Really athletic players that lacks basketball skills aren't what we are lacking imo.

SkywalkerAC

I hear you about Outlaw. He definitely doesn't have the greatest basketball instincts and is therefor always going to be limited to a certain range of the game. Joey takes a lot of criticism for his decision making, lack of instinct, etc but I think Joey is the better player right now.

And Luke Jackson is probably better than them both.

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Junkyard Dog13

If we are to compare Matt Barnes to Joey Graham both about the same size 6"7 225, ezxcept Barnes numbers much better b/c he avg's about 50% more PT say we give Joey 30 min regularly do you all think he can be the long term answer at SF, we know when he gets that kinda PT he can certinly avg 12 PPG 5-6 RPG, the only problem with Joey is his lack of first step, I think he needs to drop some wieght and work on his agility, a guy with his frame and athlethic skills should easily be able to slash to the basket but Joey is not consistent in doing that.

Pietruis & Barnes are both quicker guys that fit the run and gun offense if we are to sign eithier It would be stupidnot to trade Joey.

I like Joey but he duissipointed me in the playoffs.

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Mullin likes Pietrus' upside and is likely to extend a qualifying offer of $3.5 million, after which he can match any offer Pietrus receives from other teams. Barnes is an unrestricted free agent, so he's headed for the highest bidder

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...PG11PTFMU1.DTL

lucky777s

Watching the GS series the announcers seemed convinced that Pietrus would not be back with the team. And given the role that Pietrus and Barnes played this year it seem obvious that for the same $$$ that GS would opt to keep Barnes. Both will be in that 4-5 mill MLE range and Pietrus was the 8th man in the playoffs while Barnes started.

Mullin will retain matching rights in hopes of doing a sign and trade for MP.

Barnes and Graham may be listed as similar measurements but their bodies are completely different. Barnes has more of a Tayshaun Prince build. Longer, thinner, slim shoulders. Joey is much stronger and wider - heavier set. I think Pietrus is the bigger upgrade and his body is a good mix of the two.

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