rumor of #4 for #13 and Swift
 

if this is true, pick sofo at #13 and Daniels at # 52

trade Mo Pete to the Hawks for #21 - Leandrinho Barbosa

C - A.D./ Sofo/ N'Diaye/ Montross
PF - Swift/ Bradley/
SF - JYD/ Murray/ Jeffries
SG - Carter/ Lenard/ Daniels
PG - A.W/ Hunter/ Alston/ Barbosa

Well, I doubt atlanta does that trade and Barbosa wont be available, and you have him as our fourth option as PG!
I'd definetly do both deals, if they were brought up, at 13 we can also consider Badiane and 52 of course daniels

if we cant get Barbosa at 21, I'd package #21 and someone like Jeffries for a few spots higher

Barbosa is only 4th option for his rookie year, then when Hunter and AW (c'mon, hes not the answer, trade him) are gone, then he'll step up into the starters role with Skip as a backup. I think that Barbosa will end up being better than AW.

A.D. and A.W. for a good SF is a good deal

future

C - Sofo
PF - Stro
SF - ....? 2nd option to Carter
SG - Carter
PG - Barbosa

now thats a team of excitement

This would be one of the best trade in Raptors history if they can pull this trade..but where did u heard it from?

yea and it would save us the headache of having to decide between Bosh and Pavel, if we could get Schortsianis at #13, we'd be adding two young big men in Stro and Schort, one would be a power type player and one being a high flyer, good complement along with Vince and the rest of the Raps.......

yah, or if we want, we can go for a defensive forward like Piertus or Diaw. Perfect in the O'Neill system.

thats true, Pietrus is sposed to be like the Euro Jordan, obviously not as good as Jordan but is hes a similar type player, then he should be good defensively and he can play SG and move Vince to SF

PG - AW
SG - Pietrus
SF - Vince
PF - Stro
C - AD

and then we got JYD, MoPete, Bradley and Rafer coming off the bench for a pretty enticing 9 man rotation........

I don't want stromile and the 13th pick more than the 4th pick not even close i would hate this to happen?
Bosh will be TEN times the player stromile will!!!!!!!

I really like Swift and the 13th for the Raptors' 4th. However, I don't see that Atlanta trade happening, though.

I'm pretty sure Shorty isn't a lottery pick. He's massive with a couple decent hooks, but hasn't shown much else. With the 13th pick, I'd like to see the Raptors pick up a point guard. Ford and Hinrich are sure to go before the 13th, but there's many more available;
- Luke Ridnour
- Leandrinho Barbosa
- Reece Gaines

Pick one of them up to back-up Alvin...

Davis / Bradley / Montross
Swift / Williams
Peterson / Murray
Carter / Jefferies
Williams / Ridnour / Hunter

I really like this roster. We're still short of a legit center, but most Eastern teams are anyways.

but hes not better than Stro and the #13 pick combined....

I wouldn't be so sure about that... Swift's a much better player than you're giving him credit for.

His stats as a starter last year: 13.7ppg on 51.5% shooting, 8.2reb, 2.31 blocks in 28.7mpg.

Bosh does have an advantage because he's taller than Swift, and probably already has more basketball skills... but Swift could be the most athletic PF in the league.

i think i saw it on the memphis board......go check it out

I'd be tempted to do this deal, but I think there might be an opportunity to grab Kwame Brown and the #11, which would be a better package. Washington will definitely be listening, because they look like they're going to be going back into rebuilding mode. A project like Pavel might be what they're looking for...I'm only speculating, but it isn't any more speculation than the swift deal anyway, so I can get away with it.

I have never heard this rumour. There is a rumour involving Memphis but it does not include Toronto. Memphis is rumoured to have deal on the table dealing Battier and their pick for Chicago's pick and possibly a filler. Chicago really wants a quality 3. Jay Williams is also rumoured to be on the block for the 3rd pick because the Bulls want Melo very bad but I don't think it will ever happen. The trade for Swift is most likely made up on this board.

If it happens to be true it would be great. I have always liked Swift and he was the #1 prospect in my rankings for the 2000 draft. Unfortunately he has yet to truly blossom but I think he could ido t with the Raptors especially in the weak East where Swift can also get away playing some times at 5. To me Swift should have been a better version of KMart and he still has a lot of time to become that. Getting their #13 pick would also be great as point guards such as Ridnour, Gaines, and possibly Barbosa will still be available. We could also use the pick as some of you have mentioned to invest on another post presence such as Sofo, Collision or Cabarkapa who I really like. Overall this is a good and safe trade for the Raps.

Swift does not have as high of a potential as a player like Bosh but like one poster said it is the inclusion of the #13 pick that makes this trade quite seductive. Unfortunately I do not believe that this trade works out economically for the Raps as we will be in the hole around $3 million. :no:

I love the idea....Stro gives us a very solid center who still has the potential to become special with his athleticism...With the 13th we can then go after a guy like Sofo or even Diaw, each of whom will provide very good defense off the bench....And with O'Neill coming to town, our defense will definitely become one of our new strong points....