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Old 05-24-2007, 03:34 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I have been sayin this the last year or so... if the raptors are able to get lewis, in my mind they would be one of the best teams in the NBA. with lewis they will get some much needed D!!!! and help on the glass 6.6RPG. also his 3 point shot will make it even harder for teams to play Bosh and others... this would be a great idea for the raptors... but i really dont think they will be able to pull it off, for one, the raptors have no cap room to really work with, also we dont have the players to trade... jose maybe. just cuz the sonics need a next PG, but guys like garbo, parker, mo pete, would be of no use to the sonics... but if some how the raptors pulled this deal of. in my mind they would have a team that would be in my mind top 5 in the NBA. because lewis brings to much. the guy is a freak, he can do everything u want from a player...

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Old 05-25-2007, 08:52 AM   #32 (permalink)
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the Stallion's trade idea: (ready to be destroyed by replies)

bosh and whatever it takes to portland for #1, draft oden and let bargnani play the 4.
top franchise in the east for 10+ years.





i called it first
So destroy a division winning team by trading a young All Star (starter!) and "whatever else" for a guy who hasn't played a NBA game?

Nah.
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:15 AM   #33 (permalink)
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So destroy a division winning team by trading a young All Star (starter!) and "whatever else" for a guy who hasn't played a NBA game?

Nah.
ill try to explain my thoughts a little better now that i have a little time to do so.
1) a division winning team, in my opinion, is not really something great. youve got to considere that we won the worst division in the league, and that we were one-and-done in the playoffs. now, as a fan, i would like my team to be a title contender, not a playoff contender. i must admit im not very high on bosh so obviously im not really fair, but i think his playoffs showed that he might just not have that killer instinct that all champions have.
2)the all star starter: this gets a little trickier. its all a matter of potential, so what im saying now might make no sense whatsoever a couple years from now.
imagine you were dallas after dirk's first year (stats worse than bargnanis, worse defense...). if they told you you could get a Zo mourning (all star player back then?) would you have traded dirk?
there was no way you could know dirk was going to be so great, but the dallas management believed so, and they got it right.
same situation here. if bargnani and oden turn out to be champions there is no need for a bosh, which i dont think will become as good as the other two fellas.
3)the trade does make sense to portland if they believe aldridge is a good player because they could play bosh at the 4 and aldridge at the 5 (both their natural positions) and also get other good players from the trade.
4) lets make clear that these are MY thoughts and are based solely on MY evaluations. as said earlier, i might be COMPLETELY WRONG with my low opinion on bosh and with my high hopes on bargs. im not even trying to say that your point does not make sense because it does. there is a much bigger chance that your opinion will eventually turn out better than my bet.
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:01 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle

So the reports are that Lewis actually has opted out. His agent has convinced him that there is someone out there willing to give him, I'm guessing, five years and $70M. We'll see...
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:35 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle

Speedy, he is only opting out of 2yrs/21mill. He is not making outrageous money by nba standards. Not Bibby or VC money.

He knows teams around the nba would gladly pay him at least 10 mill to start, and he knows the Sonics will either want to keep him or trade him - not just let him walk He can just sit out until they agree to S&T him if he wants.

And even if he only gets 10 mill to start on a 5 year deal that gives him a total of about 60 mill in guaranteed money as compared to the 21 he is guaranteed now. Common sense says to opt out and grab the extra cash now. A team like the Knicks might offer him a 70+ mill deal and could have the assets SEA wants in return. A team like IND might be interested in moving JO and a pick and get back Lewis and one of the young C's on the Sonics. So a big salary for Lewis is almost better for the Sonics to get good value in trade. Gasol, JO, Pierce, and KG may be on the block this summer.
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:24 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle

Ford or Calderon for Marvin Williams is much less risky, and may be much more rewarding.
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle

Calderon & Graham for Marvin Williams?
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:00 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Is Marvin Williams even that good? He seems like a tweener between PF/SF, kind of like Antawn Jamison only way less effective offensively.
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Old 05-26-2007, 12:23 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle

That's definitely the risk with him, but the upside is huge if he can be a true SF. But he could easily be more of a Jamison or Al Harrington which may not be a great fit for us. Childress is a pretty good upgrade on the wing as well but I'm not sure why the Hawks fans seem down on him. Pretty efficient player by his numbers. Just not exciting like JoeJohnson or JoshSmith

Graham teased us a bit to end the season and its hard to say if its time to give up on him or not. If he has a great season is it just a contract year thing or will he keep improving?
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