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05-23-2007, 08:17 AM
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Trade Idea with Seattle
Looks like with the #2 pick now (Durant) Seattle is likely going to let Lewis leave town... which opens up an interesting possibility. Seattle wants a PG that can run their offense. We have 2 of those.
If we do S&T involving Lewis for Calderon and Peterson (?) or someone else...
I think we could really improve our team, and bring over Ukic to backup Ford... or give Dixon more reps at PG.
Thoughts???
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05-23-2007, 08:28 AM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
i think this is very likely
raps need more strength on the wing and lewis is exactly that... lewis will be dealt with the arrival of durant...
i think they'd want more than just calderon and peterson... im pretty damn sure of it.. i wouldn't be opposed to having TJ shipped for rashard lewis plus neglible filler... or even a 4 player deal with lewis adn ridnour/watson for TJ and rasho maybe
add lewis to bosh and bargs..and u dont really need to have a TJ creating his own shot.. just a pg that can make shots and run the offense... making Calderon all that is needed as ur 30 min pg...
then with the MLE...
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05-23-2007, 08:32 AM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
Rashard will be looking for around 12 mill to start. Raps will be a little under the cap so they can take back some extra salary, but not much.
Jose only makes 2.5 mill. MoP will only get around 4-5 mill in a new deal. Not sure if you can even trade 2 S&T guys in one transaction. Moving TJ in this trade might be easier. Or not if he is a BYC player.
I doubt Toronto gets involved.
Hawks fans seem ready to give up on MarvWill and that may be the better option long term.
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05-23-2007, 08:51 AM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
Is it for sure that Lewis has turned down his option? If so I'd be surprised, because it would net him over $20M for two years. Can he take it and be traded afterwards?
He definitely seems expendable now with Durant on the way, but I could see Seattle looking for a big man if they wanted to be rid of him. Zach Randolph comes to mind, as Portland needs a small forward to complete their lineup. Inter-divisional trades can be tricky, though. AK47 is also available but would probably cost more than just Lewis.
As for Williams, his body language put me off when we played them in Atlanta. Maybe it is just the case that he is a young kid, I dunno. He certainly has a lot of talent and would fit in nice in our system. Problem being that Jose is such a big part of our team that I don't know what we might play like without him.
I've had my doubts about TJ as much as anyone else, and trading Jose would necessitate us signing a decent back-up point guard to replace him. Maybe someone like Steve Blake, who may be too expensive. Brevin Knight would be good if Charlotte wants to max-out their cap space and go for one of the big free agents like Carter, meaning they wouldn't pick up Knight's option.
A lot to consider.
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05-23-2007, 09:31 AM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
What if the Seattle took on Rasho as well:
Jose+MoP+Rasho for Lewis?
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05-23-2007, 09:31 AM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
Lewis will definitely opt out. He will get a 4 year deal minimum that pays him between 40 and 60 mill. That kind of security is why he will opt out. Never know when an injury can hit.
And if its a S&T scenario then it doesn't matter what SEA wants. It matters where Lewis wants to go. He is essentially signing with the new team. SEA will want to get something back. Grunwald was close to getting Lewis years ago.
I'm not that high on MarvWill either, but if he was a proven guy we wouldn't even have a shot at him. Childress is more of a known commodity but MarvWill has the upside. He just seems like more of a small 4 than a 3 man though.
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05-23-2007, 10:09 AM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
again, who the hell has that kind of money to pay for rashard lewis? the bobcats?
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05-23-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
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again, who the hell has that kind of money to pay for rashard lewis? the bobcats?
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Gotta think they will spend it on Gerald Wallace instead. Orlando has a bit of money but they have to think about re-upping with Milicic.
Odds are if Lewis can command that kind of money, which seems doubtful, it will have to be through a sign-and-trade with someone.
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05-23-2007, 01:23 PM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
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Originally Posted by SkywalkerAC
again, who the hell has that kind of money to pay for rashard lewis? the bobcats?
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Yes, the Bobcats are the only team that can offer that kind of money straight up. Everyone else would have to make it a sign-and-trade.
Seattle needs a reliable center to pair with the developing centers they've picked for the last 3 years (or whatever). They might be interested in Nesterovic but they'd need someone really good going with him to make a deal work for Lewis.
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05-23-2007, 01:31 PM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
of the apparently available players, my list for this summer runs three-long (in order):
1) josh smith
2) gerald wallace
3) rashard lewis
for the raptors, though, one of our most tradeable commodities (especially- or only?- in a deal like this) happens to also be a swingman (mop). could complicate things. or rather, could doom things.
regardless, i'm dreaming about a team with either one of those players + bosh + bargnani + darrick martin - darrick martin. i seriously doubt we'll get one but you never know. i think our chance of getting rashard improved with last night's lottery but perhaps not. i'm not sure why it's a foregone conclusion that the blazers are taking oden. that's crept up too quickly for me to believe it quite yet.
peace
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05-23-2007, 01:42 PM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
TRADE TJ!!!!!!!!!!!!
seriously though... the only thing with lewis is that if he plays the 3, bosh the 4 and gnani the 5... Who the hell would rebound? I don't think Lewis would fix our rebounding problem. We would be great from the perimeter though.
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05-23-2007, 01:46 PM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
problem is, if we trade Mo Pete, we are left with only AP and Gnani who are a threat from 3.
We would need somebody who can hit the 3 in return but the catch is, we suck at rebounding, so we would need somebody that can hit the 3 AND rebound...
hah, doesn't sound possible.
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05-23-2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
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Originally Posted by Dee-Zy
problem is, if we trade Mo Pete, we are left with only AP and Gnani who are a threat from 3.
We would need somebody who can hit the 3 in return but the catch is, we suck at rebounding, so we would need somebody that can hit the 3 AND rebound...
hah, doesn't sound possible.
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everyone knows i'm all about stats, but if that's your criteria, rashard lewis is your guy. man hit 151 threes this year @ 39% (only played in ~60 games). also averaged 6.6 rpg.
he's your guy. now, if your problem is bargnani playing centre, well then, that's a different story. but as long as bargnani plays the 5, you won't easily find a better 'solution' for your rebounding problem than rashard at the 3. he's not great but you could do far worse.
peace
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05-23-2007, 04:47 PM
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Re: Trade Idea with Seattle
How is Lewis on the defensive end. The guy is 6-10, can he stay with the perimeter guys on defense?
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05-23-2007, 05:07 PM
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